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Greg James:
Hello everybody and welcome. Good afternoon Facebook fans. We are live from the Facebook offices in central London, on International Women's Day.
My name is Greg James and today I'll be joined by British actor and UN Woman Global Goodwill Ambassador for who International Women's Day means a lot. Last year she gave a very memorable speech, an incredible speech, a sensational speech really on gender equality, launching the 'He for She' campaign.
Please join me everybody and make a lot of noise for the wonderful, Emma Watson.
Welcome.
Well, that's a lovely reaction. We haven't said anything yet!
Emma: I know, I haven't said anything!
Greg: Good, thank you all so much for coming and thank you very much for watching, and thanks for getting me involved. It's a real, a real honour to be a part of this. I watched the speech when it was, when you did it in September and I felt absolutely compelled...

...to do something, so I was really happy to be asked to get involved.
Emma: Thank you.
Greg: Great to have you here, are you feeling well? Are you good and happy?
Emma: I'm good. I'm a little nervous, but I'm very excited. I'm very, very, very excited.
Greg: That's good.
Emma: Because, this is amazing (that) Facebook have done this. It's so cool.
Greg: Well, so your Facebook fan page has just passed 30 million fans.
Emma: I can't even... I can't even wrap my head around that.
Greg: 30 million's a lot of people.
Emma: That's insane.
Greg: Yeah.
Emma: That's so many people. That's so many people...
Greg: So a lot of people are watching this right now and you keep up to date with your fans, and that's... you like the conversation between you and your fans on there.
Emma: I really do. I think it's been such an amazing tour for me because I can instantly and directly share things that are really important to me, and it's really personal, you know? It's really nice to be able to do that... really nice.
Greg: Do you get addicted to it because there's just so much commentating the whole time...

00:00:03 hello everybody and welcome good
00:00:06 afternoon Facebook fans we are live from
00:00:08 the Facebook offices in central London
00:00:11 on International Women's Day my name is
00:00:13 Greg James and today I'll be joined by
00:00:15 British actor and UN Women Global
00:00:17 goodwill ambassador to whom
00:00:19 International Women's Day
00:00:20 means a lot last year she gave a very
00:00:23 memorable speech an incredible speech
00:00:25 sensational speech really on gender
00:00:27 equality launching the he for she
00:00:29 campaign please join me everybody and
00:00:31 make a lot of noise for the wonderful
00:00:32 Emma Watson
00:00:45 welcome
00:00:54 well that's the lovely reaction we
00:00:56 haven't even said anything yet I know
00:00:57 how does that anything that's really
00:00:59 good thank you all so much for coming
00:01:00 and thank you very much for watching and
00:01:02 thanks for getting me involved it's real
00:01:04 a real honor to be part of this
00:01:06 I watched the speech when it was we did
00:01:09 it in September and I felt absolutely
00:01:11 compelled to do something so I was
00:01:13 really happy to to be asked to get
00:01:14 involved great to have you here are you
00:01:16 feeling well you are you good and happy
00:01:18 I'm good I'm a little nervous but I'm
00:01:20 very excited I'm very very very excited
00:01:22 that's good this is amazing that respect
00:01:25 I've done this well so your Facebook fan
00:01:27 page had just passed 30 million fans I
00:01:31 even I can't even wrap my head around
00:01:33 that 30 million is a lot of people yeah
00:01:36 so many people it's a lot people
00:01:38 watching this right now and you and you
00:01:40 keep up to date with your fans and
00:01:41 that's you like the conversation between
00:01:43 you and your fans on there I really do I
00:01:46 think it's been such an amazing tool for
00:01:47 me because I can instantly and directly
00:01:51 share things that are really important
00:01:53 to me and it's really personal no it's
00:01:57 it's it's really nice to be able to do
00:02:00 that really nice do you get addicted to
00:02:01 it because you just there's so much
00:02:03 common place in the whole time because I
00:02:04 do get a bit addicted actually yeah it's
00:02:07 um it's so nice cuz you just you get
00:02:09 instant feedback to things and I'm
00:02:12 particularly with he for she I'm so
00:02:14 interested to see you know what you guys
00:02:16 think and what you know and it's it's so
00:02:19 nice to see things that I'm saying like
00:02:21 starting debates and conversation and I
00:02:24 love seeing how you know all of that
00:02:27 unravels really it's it's really fun
00:02:30 well the video that you put up to talk
00:02:32 about this specific conversation was
00:02:34 viewed at 17 million times I mean that's
00:02:37 that's crazy number so a lot of people
00:02:38 are watching today and by the way if you
00:02:40 have got questions please put in the
00:02:41 comments and we can try and get to them
00:02:43 as the conversation goes on we have so
00:02:45 much to talk about so let's let's get
00:02:46 started we're live at the Facebook
00:02:48 offices today and we'll get some fan
00:02:51 questions later which we'll have time
00:02:53 for but I want to talk about that speech
00:02:55 that you did on the 20th of September
00:02:57 now obviously talking at the UN is
00:02:59 an incredibly nerve-racking thing to do
00:03:02 I imagine I'm not going to only imagine
00:03:03 I haven't actually spoken at the UN yet
00:03:05 they haven't asked me yet but what what
00:03:08 was the mission statement what was going
00:03:11 through your head and the morning of
00:03:12 that speech what was the mission
00:03:13 statement you wanted to get across um I
00:03:16 guess I really wanted to communicate
00:03:17 that gender equality historically has
00:03:21 been predominantly a woman's movement
00:03:22 for women but I think the impact of
00:03:27 gender inequality and how it's actually
00:03:29 been affecting men hasn't really been
00:03:31 addressed and so I really wanted to make
00:03:34 that one of the clearest messages in my
00:03:36 speech and I think also our society in
00:03:39 general D values that she and you know
00:03:42 when I say that I mean qualities that
00:03:43 are associated with the feminine which
00:03:44 are found in all of us and as a result
00:03:47 there's kind of this imbalance and this
00:03:50 distortion and it's just hindering our
00:03:53 progress it's causing discrimination and
00:03:56 violence and pain and fear the world
00:03:59 over all the way you know all over and I
00:04:03 just wanted to desensitize people to the
00:04:04 issues and make them feel that they
00:04:07 could be part of the problem and that
00:04:09 that they can make a difference and to
00:04:11 give people a voice on a platform with
00:04:14 which to do that with which to make
00:04:18 change so it's quite a lot to fit into
00:04:21 into eight minutes but I did my best
00:04:24 tried to cram it all in um yeah it was
00:04:27 difficult I really wanted to try and
00:04:28 reach as many different people as
00:04:30 possible in a very short space of time
00:04:33 what are the immediate reactions from
00:04:35 your fans and from the people that know
00:04:37 you what what the reactions after that
00:04:39 speech what was said immediately how did
00:04:42 you feel after you've done it did you
00:04:43 feel like you absolutely got every point
00:04:45 across did you feel that that was that
00:04:46 was the nice and lovely moment because
00:04:49 like one of the most surreal moments of
00:04:50 my life I have to say I remember at the
00:04:53 end of it
00:04:54 seeing people start to stand up and it
00:04:57 was like something from a dream or a
00:04:59 film or I thought maybe I died and it's
00:05:02 I was just really surreal mommy didn't
00:05:06 die I didn't die
00:05:07 um but kind of a little bit I felt like
00:05:09 I could I sound really cheesy but I felt
00:05:12 like I could sort of die happy I had
00:05:14 sort of done kind of what the most
00:05:17 important thing I might ever do I had I
00:05:21 had I would I was shaking I was so
00:05:23 nervous but at least I got it out there
00:05:26 like I'd managed to manage to voice the
00:05:28 words I've managed to I'd managed to get
00:05:30 it out and that was big so you talked a
00:05:33 lot about inviting men to help fight
00:05:35 sexism so what was the reaction from the
00:05:38 men around you and your male fans what
00:05:40 were they saying um I was really
00:05:44 touching because I got a lot of emails
00:05:47 from you know my pear group so guys I
00:05:52 was at university where they're all guys
00:05:53 I was at school with but I got a lot of
00:05:56 emails from men had worked with you know
00:06:00 there was just a real the demographic of
00:06:04 men I reached it was sort of like
00:06:06 everywhere from my dad and my dad's
00:06:09 friends all the way down to my little
00:06:11 brother Toby you know being being all
00:06:16 about it as well so I was really that
00:06:19 was really cool yeah the the support you
00:06:22 got from other celebrities was also
00:06:24 incredible and there was a huge Drive
00:06:26 pitched on social media and all the rest
00:06:28 of it who are the ones that you were
00:06:29 most proud of reaching and you were so
00:06:31 happy that they were joining in this
00:06:33 campaign as well yeah I mean just
00:06:36 incredible I'd like a personal letter
00:06:38 from the Archbishop of Canterbury and
00:06:41 you know I had you know it was just mad
00:06:43 it was amazing and but but you know we
00:06:46 have also had we just actually launched
00:06:50 a new program called impact on by ten by
00:06:51 ten and we have these impact champions
00:06:53 who are pilot piloting he for she
00:06:56 programs within you know whether it's
00:06:58 their government or whether it's their
00:07:00 school or their business and
00:07:02 we've actually had the country of Sweden
00:07:04 the country of the Netherlands
00:07:06 we've had Sierra Leone Unilever PwC
00:07:09 Barclays Tupperware sunny University
00:07:12 Oxford University yes and and we're
00:07:16 announcing a lot more on March 10th I'm
00:07:18 not allowed to say who those other
00:07:19 people are but we I mean it's just
00:07:22 incredible to have to have that kind of
00:07:25 support you know on those kind of levels
00:07:26 you know and then and then all the way
00:07:28 down to you know I've had I read a
00:07:31 letter from a 13 year old boy this this
00:07:34 morning um who was you know hopefully as
00:07:37 passionate as the CEO of Unilever so
00:07:40 that's that's amazing has only been five
00:07:42 months I mean that's I think that's the
00:07:44 other thing is it's it's well I think I
00:07:46 feel like it's made a huge impact in
00:07:47 those five months and obviously it's
00:07:49 very important that that your fans and
00:07:51 the general public are getting behind
00:07:53 this but you do need those corporations
00:07:54 to help push those messages home so it
00:07:56 sounds like everything's going pretty
00:07:57 well so far
00:07:58 it is it is and yeah I think you know in
00:08:02 terms of mail reactions I think I might
00:08:04 have been like yeah we're on board but
00:08:05 now we're not really sure exactly how to
00:08:07 help it can be there a little bit still
00:08:10 a little bit fearful and still a little
00:08:11 bit confused of okay so how do i how do
00:08:13 I do this exactly and I guess I just say
00:08:17 that you know even the small gestures to
00:08:20 the tiller really big ones it all makes
00:08:22 it all changes and impacts somebody
00:08:24 else's life so I saw one thing I know
00:08:26 you're very excited about with Steve
00:08:27 Carell who wore the he / she cufflinks
00:08:29 at the Oscars now always talked about
00:08:31 this because I he's kind of my hero and
00:08:33 I know he's you're a big fan of him too
00:08:35 so what was it like to see in action to
00:08:37 see that people were just it was that
00:08:39 that's a very subtle but lovely thing to
00:08:40 do isn't wearing like wearing some cuff
00:08:41 links so yeah things like that month you
00:08:43 must meet you go okay things are
00:08:45 happening completely you know I I had no
00:08:50 idea that he was gonna do that and then
00:08:51 um you know it's just it's just so
00:08:56 overwhelming and humbling when men want
00:08:59 to show their support like that
00:09:01 it's just it's just so nice it really is
00:09:04 and it does spread awareness and it does
00:09:08 make a difference and
00:09:09 you know even if like two people on that
00:09:10 night asked him what his like what is
00:09:13 your cuff link what does that mean what
00:09:15 is that and he said oh well you know I
00:09:16 am taking a stand for gender equality
00:09:18 yeah you know that fat itself that's
00:09:21 huge so what are some of the things that
00:09:24 you're asking your facebook fans to do
00:09:26 to be part of he pushy what are some of
00:09:28 the things that they can actually you
00:09:29 know take part in or do well uh first
00:09:33 off um I have a an amazing number of
00:09:38 male Facebook fans I'm I need to check
00:09:41 the number because it's so many it's so
00:09:43 crazy I can't even believe it but um
00:09:46 yeah we only have 200,000 commitments on
00:09:52 he fishy org so Facebook fans one thing
00:09:56 you can do that's right now even if you
00:09:58 want to is go to the clip sheet org and
00:10:01 make the commitment we still we still
00:10:03 need more men signing up on that
00:10:05 petition yeah so that that's that's
00:10:10 definitely that's definitely a really
00:10:12 good way and you know and then I think
00:10:18 it's really cute I asked my I have my
00:10:21 younger sister this morning I was like
00:10:22 what would be the one thing will be the
00:10:24 one thing that you would want from from
00:10:26 the boys and your life from from the men
00:10:28 in your life
00:10:29 she just then she went I just want them
00:10:34 to want to play with us
00:10:36 like just one I just warned you know and
00:10:39 and again I was like well that that
00:10:41 translates at every level like we just
00:10:44 want to be included we just you know we
00:10:47 just want yeah we just want to be
00:10:51 included I was like wow yeah it's really
00:10:54 very concisely done that and then for
00:10:56 women I think it's really acknowledging
00:11:00 or feeling comfortable or confident
00:11:02 enough to acknowledge that there is
00:11:03 actually a problem because it's
00:11:10 uncomfortable it's all quiz to it to
00:11:12 acknowledge that there is a problem but
00:11:14 we need to understand that we are
00:11:16 complicit
00:11:17 and another sort of anecdote is that you
00:11:24 know a lot of the yeah just a lot of the
00:11:30 criticism I've ever had in my life in
00:11:31 with the harshest moments of criticism
00:11:33 war some of the hardest moments I've had
00:11:35 have been comments from other women and
00:11:39 you know it's not just enough to ask men
00:11:42 to come in and support us we really need
00:11:45 to support each other we really do so
00:11:50 you know I guess I would say being brave
00:11:53 enough to acknowledge that that things
00:11:55 aren't there yet and and also you know
00:11:58 supporting each other
00:12:00 we talked a lot about in your speech for
00:12:02 the UN about the term feminism and and I
00:12:08 suppose making sure people understand
00:12:10 what you mean by that and what people
00:12:11 mean by the term feminism but I mean
00:12:14 what what what's your understanding of
00:12:16 it what did you want to try and put
00:12:17 across because there's lots of people I
00:12:19 think a lot of people don't know what
00:12:20 that necessarily means it and I think
00:12:22 you said something like it was a not a
00:12:24 dirty word but it was a word that people
00:12:26 are afraid of using people are reluctant
00:12:29 to use it why do you think that is
00:12:31 because I think people associate it with
00:12:33 with hate with with man hate and and
00:12:39 that's that's really negative and I
00:12:43 don't think that's what feminism is
00:12:45 about at all I think it's actually
00:12:46 something incredibly positive so I think
00:12:49 that's why women became very reluctant
00:12:52 to use that word but I think that's
00:12:56 changing which is really cool I've I'm
00:13:00 aware of a lot more male feminists now
00:13:02 yeah and I was a few years ago and it's
00:13:04 it's really heartening and people have
00:13:09 come back to what the actual definition
00:13:10 means which is equality politically
00:13:14 culturally socially economically that's
00:13:18 it but even if that simple you know that
00:13:19 small message gets through now yeah I
00:13:21 mean I'm trying to me what I was like
00:13:22 when I was 15 yeah I was 15 year old boy
00:13:24 typical teenage boy if some said to you
00:13:27 are you a feminist you know well
00:13:29 obviously not
00:13:30 I think that that but now it should be
00:13:33 you know if by that you mean I would
00:13:36 like many women to be treated equally
00:13:38 paid the same and you know all that kind
00:13:40 of thing I would say yes I am a feminist
00:13:42 but I think that's a very simple thing
00:13:44 for people to try and grasp hold of it
00:13:46 is I I think um man think it's a woman's
00:13:50 word but it is only women it's only for
00:13:52 women but it really just means that you
00:13:55 believe in equality and if you stand for
00:13:57 equality then you're a feminist sorry to
00:14:00 tell you you you're a feminist I'm sorry
00:14:03 you you're a feminist that's it so from
00:14:07 this this point on what what are the
00:14:08 things that you're going to working on
00:14:09 in the next few weeks next couple of
00:14:11 months what the next targets for you
00:14:13 next target for me well I'm gonna harp
00:14:16 on about this but again you know getting
00:14:18 warm and sign up to the petition because
00:14:19 200 thousands just not we're not there
00:14:22 yet
00:14:22 we need we need more signing a petition
00:14:25 so that and then and then really it it's
00:14:28 working on the impact on my turn my turn
00:14:29 and you know we've had this amazing
00:14:32 groundswell of support and now we want
00:14:35 to empower people to be able to take
00:14:37 action and make change and actually you
00:14:41 know translate that passion into into
00:14:44 really doing something so we're trying
00:14:46 to support people with that and we've
00:14:48 been collecting he fishes stories so
00:14:51 people have been sending a sauce put
00:14:52 their stories and I spent four hours
00:14:53 reading these they are absolutely
00:14:55 amazing thank you so much for sending
00:14:57 them in I mean it's it's just really
00:15:01 heartening actually I go to bed at night
00:15:03 feeling really optimistic about the
00:15:08 state of affairs in the world because I
00:15:10 can see that there are people that
00:15:11 really want to make a difference and it
00:15:13 just it's really cool who are the people
00:15:16 that inspired you the females in your
00:15:19 life yeah maybe once you knew your
00:15:21 family but also the ones that you
00:15:22 watched on telly or you read things that
00:15:25 they've written who are the people that
00:15:26 inspired you um what's Mother's Day seen
00:15:29 so I guess your beers choices is my own
00:15:33 mum she was a single working mother
00:15:38 she's also type 1 diabetic
00:15:41 so seeing her strength and resilience
00:15:44 and was really inspiring growing up
00:15:47 really inspiring and I think she
00:15:50 instilled in me you know particularly in
00:15:53 my teenage years when I was feeling very
00:15:55 insecure and confused about what my
00:15:59 purpose was um she really really
00:16:03 instilled in me that what I was thinking
00:16:06 and what I was doing and what I was
00:16:08 saying were ultimately infinitely more
00:16:12 important than my physical appearance
00:16:14 even when the world was really telling
00:16:17 me the contrary so and she really she
00:16:23 really encouraged me to be an individual
00:16:24 I remember her being thrilled when I got
00:16:28 my first attention because she was ten
00:16:31 she was really worried I think that I
00:16:33 was gonna be a bit straight-laced and
00:16:35 was it all oh I failed her last minute
00:16:37 BAM I failed an exam Eliza detention
00:16:41 yeah I fell well I think I felt a few
00:16:43 times actually maybe more than one
00:16:45 anyway that's not going to that but no
00:16:47 but I think she did she wanted me to be
00:16:49 my own person and she thought a bit of
00:16:52 rebellion was was a good thing um I'm
00:16:55 not sure how failing my last examples
00:16:57 rebelling but we'll say well we'll go
00:17:00 with that um so yeah my mom she's
00:17:04 awesome yeah it's great lady we
00:17:06 mentioned at the start about the speech
00:17:08 at the UN talked a bit about how the
00:17:11 partnership with the UN came about
00:17:13 because this is a the UN obviously is a
00:17:16 huge organization and when they
00:17:20 approached you of did you approach then
00:17:21 how did it come about so um I I had
00:17:25 already been working for I'd already
00:17:28 been working for fair trade for a fair
00:17:30 trade company which was supporting women
00:17:33 abroad so that they had sort of economic
00:17:35 independence
00:17:37 and then I was also working for a
00:17:39 charity called Camfed which provides
00:17:42 scholarships for girls in countries
00:17:43 where they wouldn't normally get to go
00:17:45 usually it's boys that get sent and
00:17:48 girls don't get really passed primary
00:17:50 school education so so I've been doing
00:17:53 work with that so I think they knew
00:17:55 where my interests where they lie and
00:18:00 they so they reached out to me and then
00:18:03 we still had this amazing conversation
00:18:05 with with Elizabeth who works for UN
00:18:08 she's new audience and it was really
00:18:11 just a meeting of minds because she said
00:18:14 well you know we have this thing called
00:18:16 he for she and it's you know and I went
00:18:18 oh my god you know it's completely my
00:18:21 take on feminism that we need to be
00:18:23 including men in the conversation we
00:18:24 need to be including them in the
00:18:25 dialogue I have four brothers
00:18:27 I can see gender inequality is affecting
00:18:29 them just as much as it's affecting me
00:18:31 we need to open up the dialogue we need
00:18:34 to give men a space where they feel that
00:18:36 they can talk about this issue um and
00:18:38 she was like well what's what is and she
00:18:40 gave me the baton and I've kind of been
00:18:42 running as hard with it as I can ever
00:18:43 since so it would just kind of felt very
00:18:47 like very meant to be and I was clearing
00:18:51 out my room
00:18:52 a few months ago and found you know
00:18:55 essays I've written when I essays and
00:18:56 diary entries I've written when I was 15
00:18:58 and I can sort of seen with hindsight
00:19:00 that that speech had sort of been
00:19:03 gestating in my head for for a long time
00:19:06 and I mean I never thought I'd be
00:19:08 working for the UN it was just amazing
00:19:10 but um I think it felt like that when we
00:19:13 watched it I think people would agree
00:19:14 for watching and in here I think we
00:19:16 would agree with that that that's been
00:19:17 percolating quite a while
00:19:18 so what were the things when you were
00:19:20 growing up that you couldn't but in
00:19:21 hindsight you now go that was unfair
00:19:23 that was not that was not cool what were
00:19:25 things we would want to change initially
00:19:27 if there was one thing you could just
00:19:28 stamp out right now it would there be
00:19:29 something I mean I've been incredibly
00:19:36 I've been incredibly lucky I really have
00:19:40 been supported and had access to just a
00:19:45 lot of opportunities that women in other
00:19:48 countries probably aren't so
00:19:49 you you know I I would never complain
00:19:52 about my personal situation but gosh I
00:20:00 guess it's just I think it starts young
00:20:06 I think it starts really young with
00:20:09 girls and boys being told what they have
00:20:12 to be and it can just be really damaging
00:20:15 I think yeah I mean it's difficult
00:20:22 because I have been incredibly fortunate
00:20:24 and I you know I think I just just
00:20:33 encourage and include each other
00:20:35 don't try and sort of ostracize each
00:20:37 other and and and and just don't just
00:20:43 have an open mind and don't have
00:20:45 expectations based based on on the
00:20:48 gender and all the sex you see you see
00:20:50 in front of you I mean there was a BBC
00:20:51 report today just about the fact that in
00:20:54 maths and science and engineering and in
00:20:56 all of these other subjects that girls
00:20:58 just aren't aren't doing as well and and
00:21:01 the biggest reason they say for that is
00:21:02 because these are generally associated
00:21:04 to be male male subjects and so women or
00:21:09 young girls feel that if they did those
00:21:11 subjects they would be inherently less
00:21:13 attractive and you know that's that's
00:21:16 another example of you know dispel that
00:21:18 myth you know like it does it doesn't
00:21:23 need to be like that it was interesting
00:21:24 what you said about your brothers um
00:21:26 experiencing gender equality yeah um in
00:21:29 what way I mean not specific necessary
00:21:31 but what in what way does that have they
00:21:32 spoken to you about it from a male
00:21:34 perspective um I think there's a lot of
00:21:38 posturing that goes on um with with men
00:21:42 and I just had my brother say to me a
00:21:45 few times that he's like I just can't be
00:21:48 around the way that some of my guy
00:21:52 friends talk about girls it just like I
00:21:55 don't not sure they even know what they
00:21:57 mean when they're saying it but it's
00:21:59 like they're imitating something that in
00:22:01 hating this this thing that they think
00:22:03 they have to be this this male idea and
00:22:07 he's like I just feel really constrained
00:22:09 by that and it really upsets me I had a
00:22:14 very similar letter from a man in the
00:22:16 military said that he experiences that a
00:22:19 lot it's a I think we don't acknowledge
00:22:25 how much pressure we put on men to
00:22:28 conform to a son perception of
00:22:30 masculinity I don't think we do
00:22:33 so yeah it's not it's nice it's nice to
00:22:38 hear that and seeing how upset they get
00:22:42 when you know for example after I gave
00:22:47 my speech in September I wasn't going to
00:22:50 talk about this but it's coming up you
00:22:53 know there there was a website that was
00:22:57 set up threatening to release naked
00:22:59 photographs of me you know with like a
00:23:03 countdown and whatever else and I knew
00:23:06 it was a hoax I mean I knew the pictures
00:23:08 didn't exist but I think I think a lot
00:23:13 of people that were close to me knew
00:23:16 gender equality was an issue but they
00:23:17 didn't really think it was that urgent
00:23:18 or particularly you know we live we live
00:23:21 in Great Britain you know this isn't it
00:23:23 this is this is a thing of the past
00:23:25 John you know oppression of women it's
00:23:28 sort of we're fine aren't we we're good
00:23:30 we've we've got far enough and then when
00:23:32 they saw that the minute I stepped up
00:23:35 and talked about women's rights I was
00:23:37 immediately threatened I mean within
00:23:39 less than 12 hours I was receiving
00:23:41 threats and I think I think they were
00:23:44 really shocked and and particular one of
00:23:46 my brother's was very upset so I think
00:23:50 it was just a wake-up call of like oh
00:23:52 this was like a real thing that's really
00:23:54 happening now like now women are
00:23:57 receiving threats in all sorts of
00:24:00 different forms that was just one
00:24:02 specific one and I think has upset that
00:24:05 the media immediately reported it as
00:24:08 fact without
00:24:11 any evidence to the contrary
00:24:14 and and you know and it really just
00:24:17 publicized something that was really
00:24:18 really negative um but I mean if then
00:24:24 it's funny because people like oh she's
00:24:25 going to be disheartened by this if
00:24:27 anything it made me so much more
00:24:29 determined I was just just raging I just
00:24:33 I was just it made me so angry that I
00:24:37 was just like this is why this needs to
00:24:40 be this is why I have to be doing this
00:24:41 this is why I have to be doing this um
00:24:43 so if anything it it's um you know it
00:24:48 actually if they were trying to put me
00:24:49 off it did feel the opposite so what was
00:24:52 it
00:24:53 absolutely well there's a wonderful
00:24:54 message to that there was a despicable
00:24:56 thing to do but you know as you say
00:24:58 nasty things happen all the time it's
00:25:01 the way you deal with them and the way
00:25:02 you can channel that into into something
00:25:04 please that's all that energy doable
00:25:07 that Anna channel that anger absolutely
00:25:09 channel that anger um I thought it's
00:25:11 absolutely fantastic when you were
00:25:13 talking about I kind of wrote down some
00:25:17 notes actually I was watching it cuz I
00:25:19 wrote down be the aggressive versus
00:25:21 submissive kind of argument between boys
00:25:23 and girls from a young age and also you
00:25:27 talking about both being free to be
00:25:29 sensitive and strong male men and women
00:25:32 yeah and where were you when I was 15 or
00:25:36 someone to say that do you know that's
00:25:37 because I I've always been a massive
00:25:39 softie I love Coldplay I'm I've really
00:25:44 that I needed but you know but when
00:25:46 you're surrounded if I I've played a lot
00:25:47 cricket a lot sports for school and you
00:25:49 have a lot of Ruth there's that and that
00:25:53 was not something that I really liked
00:25:54 particularly and so it needed I think I
00:25:59 think that's a really powerful message
00:26:00 to to everyone watching this now who's
00:26:03 going through going through puberty
00:26:05 going through those teenage years but so
00:26:07 difficult it's so horrible I mean you
00:26:09 don't know what you I don't know what's
00:26:10 going on so I think someone like you
00:26:11 standing up and saying things like nice
00:26:13 really important and you must feel that
00:26:14 from your fans the feedback from people
00:26:16 must have been yeah thank God you said
00:26:17 something like this
00:26:18 oh yeah I hope so I mean I'm really
00:26:22 genuinely disturbed by this idea that
00:26:25 men can't cry and and like and that they
00:26:28 can't they just can't express themselves
00:26:30 they can't talk about how they actually
00:26:32 feel I think that's actually the saddest
00:26:35 thing in the world it's so bad
00:26:37 I can cry believe me excellent like
00:26:39 awesome anthem it's crazy it's what
00:26:42 makes you human like how you feel being
00:26:45 able to express yourself being
00:26:47 passionate being emotional it's what
00:26:48 makes you human
00:26:49 it's not what makes you a girl it's what
00:26:52 makes you human
00:26:53 I mean it it's you know it's if you've
00:26:56 got a beating heart and you care about
00:26:58 things that's great
00:27:00 that's so good um so yeah good yeah
00:27:06 let's move on to some fun question Terry
00:27:08 um so what happened was you put Emma put
00:27:12 on some put on your Facebook fan page
00:27:15 give me some questions and I will try
00:27:17 and answer them there were so many
00:27:19 questions that what we decided to do was
00:27:22 we look through them and just thought
00:27:23 the the big themes okay of the question
00:27:26 so we'll we'll start off with I'll start
00:27:30 with this question here so the Heba
00:27:34 sheet supporters would like to know how
00:27:36 gender equality has affected you
00:27:37 personally and have you been
00:27:39 discriminated personally against because
00:27:43 of your gender and if so how did you
00:27:44 deal with it
00:27:46 good question well um yes I have um you
00:27:57 know I when I was looking I was going
00:27:59 through comments the whistlin in for
00:28:00 this for this Q&A and most of them were
00:28:06 really thoughtful and and great and then
00:28:08 I know one and then I was going through
00:28:10 one popped up which was just Emma why
00:28:12 aren't you in the kitchen
00:28:16 um I went hmm okay uh interesting and
00:28:20 you know it's interesting because when I
00:28:22 was younger my brothers actually used to
00:28:25 say things like that to me because as a
00:28:27 joke because they knew I would get I
00:28:30 would get riled up I'd get a you know
00:28:32 they'd get a rise out of me basically as
00:28:34 I was thinking about this I think about
00:28:37 you know when do you engage and when do
00:28:40 you not and and how do you have a
00:28:43 meaningful dialogue on this topic when
00:28:47 perhaps one isn't isn't really being
00:28:50 wanted and and so I guess what I would
00:28:54 tell my younger self if someone said
00:28:57 that to me then and you know and how I
00:29:00 feel about it now is that I know that
00:29:04 I'm not alone in this fight that it's an
00:29:07 education problem and that it's it in
00:29:10 the not-too-distant future I really hope
00:29:12 that most people will be horrified by a
00:29:16 comment like that as opposed to sort of
00:29:18 mildly act and so I guess you know it's
00:29:26 just I have a much calmer conviction now
00:29:29 I think that I used to when I was
00:29:30 younger I mean I still I still it still
00:29:33 does upset me and it's good that it
00:29:35 upsets me because it should but you know
00:29:39 I think I know the difference between
00:29:41 knowing when to knowing when someone
00:29:44 wants to have you know a meaningful
00:29:47 dialogue about gender equality and when
00:29:50 someone just just you know just wants to
00:29:54 get a rise out of you I think there's
00:29:57 quite a lot of discussion about gender
00:29:59 equality in the developing world and
00:30:02 that's obviously a big a huge problem as
00:30:05 we mentioned earlier about the the
00:30:07 traditional route in many countries
00:30:09 would be for boys to go to school
00:30:11 secondary school girls not to how would
00:30:13 you how does that make you feel first of
00:30:16 all and what would you like to see over
00:30:17 the next few years
00:30:19 gosh I just I mean first of all
00:30:23 if someone had told me that my brother
00:30:25 could go to school but I couldn't
00:30:27 because I was a girl I just would have
00:30:29 been so hot and so baffled and so why
00:30:34 and the fact that this is still going on
00:30:36 you know the world over uh really it's
00:30:41 something that really needs to be
00:30:42 addressed but I guess I just say how and
00:30:45 why are you not recognizing the
00:30:47 potential of that girl what why are you
00:30:51 not recognizing what she can bring to
00:30:53 the table and um we need we need yin
00:31:00 yang we we need that balance and we need
00:31:04 female representation we need female
00:31:07 leadership um women women have so much
00:31:12 to offer
00:31:13 with such an untapped um part of of this
00:31:19 world so much potential just gets wasted
00:31:22 because girls aren't encouraged in the
00:31:25 same way that men are we can we can
00:31:27 achieve so much it's interesting cuz I
00:31:30 literally this morning came back from a
00:31:32 comic relief trip in Uganda and we and
00:31:34 we're focused in a in a village called
00:31:36 Ilhwa which is they just put a new
00:31:37 health center there apart of Coralie
00:31:39 from them and it was a perhaps that the
00:31:41 fascinating experience and visiting some
00:31:43 local schools and things to see there
00:31:46 were many many girls there
00:31:48 things are changing but in just me it
00:31:50 needs campaigns like he pushy I think to
00:31:52 really push this message home that it's
00:31:54 not it's it's a global problem but some
00:31:57 of them mate amazing things about the
00:31:59 sign up of men so far to the website is
00:32:01 that it there's there's men in every
00:32:04 country that was signed up to this yeah
00:32:06 so it is it is reaching that global
00:32:08 audiences maybe it definitely is and I
00:32:09 don't know I think even in even in
00:32:12 Britain you know we have an equal number
00:32:14 of women at university as men but then
00:32:17 in a certain point we're just dropping
00:32:18 out we're just we just aren't being
00:32:21 encouraged into those leadership
00:32:23 positions we're just not we're not
00:32:27 getting past a certain point
00:32:29 and so yes it needs addressing abroad
00:32:32 but it still needs addressing here you
00:32:34 know it in in the West we don't we're
00:32:37 not there yet at all we've still got so
00:32:39 much work that we need to do and and
00:32:42 that we need to pioneer what do you say
00:32:45 to the people that message you on your
00:32:47 social networks and say someone said I
00:32:49 can't do an engineering course because I
00:32:52 am a girl and this is a this must be
00:32:54 great it's regular isn't it people say
00:32:56 me softly no it is regular oh just don't
00:33:00 let anyone tell you what you can or
00:33:04 cannot do or can or cannot achieve just
00:33:06 don't allow it just do not allow it um
00:33:10 it's wrong it's so wrong um be whatever
00:33:15 you want to be and and that's the
00:33:18 amazing thing about social media is that
00:33:20 you know whatever wherever you live in
00:33:23 the world or whatever conditioning or
00:33:25 whatever the people around you might
00:33:28 think you can access whole community of
00:33:30 other people think differently and
00:33:32 they'll want to support you and you know
00:33:35 it was that was a crazy moment for me
00:33:38 was you know not really thinking I just
00:33:40 responded immediately to this girl who
00:33:42 take say no my dad says girls can't be
00:33:46 engineers and I just said well and what
00:33:48 can I do you know about this of them go
00:33:50 and be an engineer just going pretty
00:33:52 mom's can do it and and then within you
00:33:55 know a couple of hours three or four
00:33:58 different engineering academies
00:34:00 fellowships whatever else had I had
00:34:02 contacted her and said women can
00:34:03 definitely be engineers and we'd love to
00:34:05 help you do that and that's amazing
00:34:07 that's so amazing
00:34:09 that's the amazing thing about what
00:34:10 social media can do is it is it is it
00:34:13 connects people in the world to it to a
00:34:15 community that they might not be able to
00:34:16 access directly around them and and
00:34:18 helps them you know think think bigger
00:34:21 we have someone in the audience would
00:34:23 like to ask a question where is Ella
00:34:25 please Ella are you here now hold on we
00:34:30 need to get your microphone otherwise no
00:34:31 one's going to hear you so there you go
00:34:34 and like
00:34:37 we can hear you and media States you
00:34:41 earn less in your film roles in the
00:34:43 Harry Potter series and then Daniel
00:34:45 Radcliffe and Rupert Grint
00:34:46 is it true and how can we address the
00:34:49 issue of unequal pay between men and
00:34:51 women good question thank you
00:34:55 interesting question thank you
00:34:58 I don't think I would ever even dream of
00:35:01 complaining about my personal
00:35:03 circumstances but yes that is a big
00:35:08 problem in my industry in the film
00:35:10 industry in industry which which I work
00:35:13 currently females comprise 7% of
00:35:18 directors 7% 19.7% writers 2.2 percent
00:35:25 our producers 13% executives are women
00:35:28 in the film industry and and we know
00:35:32 that when you have a female writer when
00:35:35 you have a female director you know
00:35:37 there's a there's a higher you know
00:35:41 representation of women so so that's a
00:35:44 pretty huge huge problem um which yes I
00:35:50 need to which needs to be addressed so
00:35:52 yeah thank you for the question those
00:35:54 statistics are terrible no no I think
00:35:58 it's really bad it's really really
00:36:00 really bad I think we saw that
00:36:03 acknowledged at the Oscars this year I
00:36:05 think there is there's an awareness but
00:36:07 you know 7% of directors of female 7%
00:36:11 why are we not telling women's stories
00:36:14 why are women not telling their own
00:36:16 stories directing their own stories it's
00:36:19 crazy it's got to be done so where does
00:36:22 that start is it I mean obviously he for
00:36:24 she it's very much men and women
00:36:25 standing together working together to
00:36:28 become you know for it for it to be for
00:36:30 it to become a normal thing that
00:36:31 everyone is equal
00:36:32 so where does it begin in tackling it in
00:36:35 a thing like the film industry how do
00:36:36 you start that that the moments when
00:36:38 I've struggled with it in my own life as
00:36:40 a woman which is some reason women are
00:36:43 still in the place where we feel like we
00:36:44 need to be given permission
00:36:46 like we'd some what we need permission
00:36:48 to be our full selves to use our full
00:36:53 voice to to to want to lead and I think
00:37:04 that has to change
00:37:05 we're with encouragement and role models
00:37:07 and you know just changing that changing
00:37:12 that mindset a lot of the comments that
00:37:14 I read on on your Facebook page were
00:37:17 from a new generation of activists I
00:37:20 suppose so your young fans who have
00:37:22 grown up watching you and you know been
00:37:25 a fan of yours for many years and they
00:37:26 are a new generation it makes me so
00:37:28 happy to hear you calling my fans like
00:37:31 activists it's so cool right that's true
00:37:33 they really are they are they're a
00:37:36 powerful army really yeah um seriously
00:37:39 and but I can galvanize so many
00:37:41 different types of people as well so a
00:37:43 lot of the comments were sort of saying
00:37:45 okay I'm on board
00:37:47 yeah what now what what do I need to do
00:37:50 give me some give me some instructions
00:37:51 me see the structure so if there's
00:37:53 there's boys and girls watching this
00:37:55 right now yeah back to school tomorrow
00:37:57 yeah what are the things that they can
00:37:59 do I like shouting about things are they
00:38:01 saying you shouldn't really talk about
00:38:02 women that way what what are the things
00:38:04 that they could do the simple everyday
00:38:05 things gosh well you know it's quite I
00:38:10 think I think people feel intimidated
00:38:12 because they feel like they have to come
00:38:14 up with like some grand huge scheme that
00:38:17 you know it's not as complicated or
00:38:21 intimidating as that actually it's it's
00:38:24 everyday it's individuals it's it's on a
00:38:29 case-by-case basis taking action just
00:38:32 doing something whether it's speaking up
00:38:38 whether it's you
00:38:42 just trying to change the way that that
00:38:44 someone else thinks about the issues um
00:38:47 it's it's a it can be done in so many
00:38:52 different ways and the story is that
00:38:54 I've been I've been getting are a
00:38:55 testament to that but there's some
00:38:57 really creative ideas which we're
00:38:59 actually going to start publishing
00:39:00 people's stories on the website of what
00:39:04 people are doing and and and how they're
00:39:06 choosing to help but I can't tell people
00:39:08 it's got to be your story it's got to be
00:39:11 how you personally can make a difference
00:39:15 and it can be anything and the smallest
00:39:20 thing the smallest gesture goes such a
00:39:22 long way it does it really really does
00:39:26 there's also a lot of comments about the
00:39:29 about the dichotomy mm-hmm that's a
00:39:32 great word by the way between between
00:39:35 chivalry and sexism okay and I think
00:39:38 this kind of goes back to what we talked
00:39:40 about earlier which is say yeah I'm with
00:39:44 a my penis like a man saying am i
00:39:46 feminist I don't know what that means
00:39:47 I'm treading on eggshells around the
00:39:48 whole thing so there was a lot of people
00:39:51 were sort of saying things like as a as
00:39:54 a woman would you be offended if a man
00:39:56 opened the door for you there's a lot of
00:39:59 people who think about things like that
00:40:00 and go well I mean they're worried maybe
00:40:02 about the smallest issues but what how
00:40:04 would you how would you feel um because
00:40:09 I'm a base what I do when we leave here
00:40:10 all right now okay
00:40:12 okay precious that you know um I love
00:40:15 having the door open for me I love I
00:40:17 mean isn't that just polite isn't that
00:40:20 just night it's not just a nice thing to
00:40:21 do for someone else I love having a door
00:40:23 open for me I love being taken to dinner
00:40:25 it's so great um but I think the key is
00:40:29 um would you then mind if I open the
00:40:33 door for you
00:40:34 absolutely not in the corridor no I'm
00:40:36 lazy oh then that works great yeah that
00:40:38 just I'm polite and you're polite yeah
00:40:41 absolutely
00:40:42 we're making the world a better place
00:40:43 with this small kind polite gesture
00:40:45 great and again you know I've um
00:40:50 I actually took a man out for dinner and
00:40:55 I chose the restaurant and I offered to
00:40:57 pay and it was really awkward and
00:40:58 uncomfortable I'm just gonna say that it
00:41:00 was he was not it was not going down
00:41:03 well he was not it was not because I'm
00:41:05 sure he would say he was a feminist but
00:41:07 he was just like oh this is a bit we
00:41:10 sure about making him feel a bit touchy
00:41:12 which I quit but the cool thing about it
00:41:15 was was that we were both willing to
00:41:17 have the conversation about why it was
00:41:19 awkward or why it was uncomfortable or
00:41:21 or you know like you know we were able
00:41:24 to have this dialogue where I was like
00:41:25 well it's okay
00:41:26 uh I'd we need I chose the restaurant
00:41:28 because it's my favorite restaurant and
00:41:30 I would love to pay but but next time
00:41:33 you choose the place and you pay or
00:41:35 whatever it is you're gonna split it or
00:41:37 whatever makes you each feel comfortable
00:41:40 but it's just I think the key is like
00:41:42 chivalry should be consensual it both
00:41:45 parties should be should be feeling good
00:41:47 about that and I think it's just a
00:41:51 problem when people expect things to be
00:41:52 a certain way to follow a certain status
00:41:54 it's appalling it's awkward and it's
00:41:56 messy and we're in transition right now
00:41:58 and everyone doesn't really feel any
00:41:59 know what to do but it's okay just just
00:42:02 be willing to have that awkward
00:42:04 conversation it does come out okay and
00:42:06 it does it really does
00:42:08 also Nando's is quite cheap so you're
00:42:09 probably fun yeah so I under I like
00:42:15 Mondays yeah so I think we've I think
00:42:18 we've covered that one yeah I think
00:42:20 we're good on that
00:42:20 yeah politeness is great I love parties
00:42:23 is politeness machinery to humans right
00:42:25 that's the thing yes oh that's the key
00:42:27 Oh deke we open the door for a man and I
00:42:29 would you know that's fine just being
00:42:31 polite
00:42:31 I've been brought up well by my mother
00:42:33 yeah say open the door for someone hold
00:42:34 the door from someone this is key and I
00:42:36 and I would do the same okay um a lot of
00:42:40 questions on the Facebook page in the
00:42:42 comments about LGBT community okay so
00:42:46 the BBC campaign in your in your
00:42:51 statement we there were people who
00:42:54 watched it and thought okay great but
00:42:56 what about my community what about
00:42:58 people around me in
00:43:00 in in my life so how will the he be she
00:43:03 campaign benefit the LGBT community okay
00:43:07 really good question
00:43:08 really important question so he ver she
00:43:12 is about men coming in to support women
00:43:15 and unfeminist
00:43:17 and feminine qualities because they are
00:43:20 currently valued less by our society
00:43:22 feminine qualities of generally valued
00:43:25 less and I think feminine femininity
00:43:29 needs to be embraced wherever its found
00:43:31 whether it be found in a man whether it
00:43:33 be found in a woman whether it be found
00:43:35 in a gender non-conforming person
00:43:37 wherever its found we we need to be
00:43:40 embracing it I'm also against racism and
00:43:45 homophobia and classism and ableism and
00:43:47 Jenna phobia and and all of it I mean my
00:43:50 specific mandate is to advocate for
00:43:53 women and girls
00:43:54 I'm a UN goodwill ambassador for women
00:43:57 so you know I'm here to do that but but
00:43:59 I also understand these oppressions are
00:44:02 interlocking mutually reinforcing and
00:44:07 that intersectionality is a really
00:44:08 important word here and we just need to
00:44:12 be supporting each other definitely 100%
00:44:16 and I hope the LGBT community does feel
00:44:19 included and does feel that this is
00:44:22 their movement because it is it
00:44:24 definitely is so I thank you and so I
00:44:31 could you general is watching this my
00:44:34 dream would be that I will be working
00:44:37 for the UN equality agency that that
00:44:40 gender equality would be such a thing of
00:44:44 the past that that wouldn't even need to
00:44:46 exist it would just be UN equality
00:44:50 agency . . you've done that's the dream
00:45:00 that is the dream there was a question
00:45:02 that was flashed up a minute ago that
00:45:03 she up here which was I don't know where
00:45:05 it's gone now it's it's gone but it
00:45:08 would there it is that's good how did
00:45:10 you know what I was thinking um it's
00:45:12 Facebook they know everywhere it was
00:45:14 gonna get great it was basically a
00:45:16 question which said if you didn't do
00:45:17 something now with this campaign with
00:45:19 HEPA she what do you think would be
00:45:20 happening in ten years time and what are
00:45:22 your fears about what your worst fears
00:45:25 about in the next 10 years if this
00:45:26 doesn't if we don't make a stand now I
00:45:29 think um some reason we we have this
00:45:34 view it's like women have the vote in
00:45:39 this country you know we we're doing
00:45:41 right it's it's this isn't there's a
00:45:44 lack of a sense of urgency around this
00:45:47 issue and also people not really
00:45:51 understanding what Hugh J this this
00:45:54 issue has all over the world I think
00:45:57 it's probably one of the biggest
00:45:59 contributors to poverty to violence to
00:46:05 discrimination it hindrance it hinders
00:46:08 development progress or all over the
00:46:12 world and you know just for example I
00:46:15 was I was reading The Guardian this
00:46:18 morning as reporters in the guard this
00:46:20 morning 85,000 women are raped in the UK
00:46:26 a year 85,000 us where we're at 16
00:46:33 percent gender pay gap Parliament 77%
00:46:38 male I mean just tell me there isn't a
00:46:42 problem here just tell me there isn't a
00:46:44 problem it just doesn't make sense to me
00:46:45 that we were so was so not there yet at
00:46:49 UK the UK ranked 56 in the world for
00:46:54 female political representation we
00:46:56 hopefully should move up to 36 in May
00:46:59 but still embarrassing I mean we're
00:47:02 meant to be one of the biggest most
00:47:05 progressive democracies in the world we
00:47:09 be at the forefront of this we we should
00:47:12 be we should be leading the way and with
00:47:15 with straggling behind we're not it's
00:47:21 just sort of stagnating for some reason
00:47:23 and yeah those figures again a
00:47:26 ridiculous oh boy
00:47:29 why has it got no news came out but do
00:47:31 you think it's got like that because
00:47:32 like you said oh when we got the vote
00:47:35 it's fine yeah so that was those are
00:47:37 quite a while ago yeah I think they
00:47:39 think that gender inequality is you know
00:47:41 I don't know what they think it's but
00:47:44 it's it's definitely a problem it's
00:47:46 definitely a problem now and this is why
00:47:48 there's something that came up some one
00:47:51 about um you know Oh first world
00:47:54 feminism that's Paul who cares about
00:47:56 that and I find this really confusing
00:47:59 because I'm like surely um
00:48:03 surely I've been incredibly privileged
00:48:06 and I haven't been held back because I'm
00:48:09 a girl but surely it's therefore my
00:48:11 responsibility to make sure that other
00:48:12 women have access to the same privileges
00:48:15 that I have
00:48:16 surely that's passed us surely it'd be
00:48:20 bad if I wasn't doing this like um you
00:48:24 know extending and making sure that that
00:48:28 what I've been lucky enough to receive
00:48:30 in my life is extended is extended out
00:48:33 is it extended outwards so yeah crazy
00:48:36 figures really upsetting figures I
00:48:38 wanted to address I think we kind of
00:48:41 covered this but I wanted you to address
00:48:43 it because it was talked about a lot on
00:48:44 your Facebook page
00:48:45 but the obviously though it generated a
00:48:48 lot of conversation when you did the UN
00:48:49 speech it's something crazy like 1.2
00:48:52 billion social media conversations I
00:48:54 mean that's that's great that's a great
00:48:56 star a lot of people were not a lot that
00:49:00 there was a lot of criticism from about
00:49:02 the role of women in the movement okay
00:49:04 so that was kind of I was is this a
00:49:06 man's club type thing is this men saving
00:49:10 women but I think it's very important
00:49:12 that that's not the message from this
00:49:14 campaign at all
00:49:15 no no it's not about men saving women
00:49:18 and it's um and I think it's a
00:49:21 misunderstanding I think that's a
00:49:23 misunderstanding I think women already
00:49:26 in the club we're already in the club
00:49:29 and because it's it's our movement it's
00:49:32 our movement it's not a men's club
00:49:35 it's an equality Club for both genders
00:49:38 it's an equality Club for both genders
00:49:40 it's about men coming in support of
00:49:43 women and women coming in support of men
00:49:47 it's it's it's both of those things and
00:49:49 um Gloria Steinem actually so called
00:49:54 Gloria Steinem Steinem gave a speech
00:49:56 last week at a he for she event in New
00:49:58 York surreal and amazing and she she
00:50:01 used this really beautiful kind of
00:50:02 amazing metaphor she said that the human
00:50:05 race is like a bird and it needs both of
00:50:08 its wings to be able to fly and the
00:50:11 moment one of its wings is clipped and
00:50:14 we're never ever ever going to be able
00:50:17 to fly as high unless unless you know
00:50:20 we're but we're both in support of each
00:50:22 other it's that's it I mean we created
00:50:27 he for she specifically at UN Women
00:50:28 because we wanted to create a space
00:50:30 where men felt that they were able to
00:50:32 express what gender and equality was
00:50:34 like for them because we knew that
00:50:36 historically you know there hadn't been
00:50:39 given that space they hadn't been given
00:50:40 that safe space but we wanted to be part
00:50:44 of the solution and the conversation and
00:50:46 we want them to be taking action with
00:50:49 with us and we want to do it together
00:50:52 yeah well I feel like that's a that's a
00:50:56 good moment to say get yourself onto the
00:50:58 website and pledge to relieve yes please
00:51:00 pledge your allegiance there's lots of
00:51:03 you saying you support it but go and
00:51:05 like it takes like two seconds I promise
00:51:07 I hate filling in online forms I got it
00:51:09 so boring and annoying you Lich's type
00:51:11 in your name and then you like take a
00:51:12 box and like it's ten that's like 10
00:51:15 seconds but it'll be really cool if if
00:51:18 we could have more people asking $50
00:51:20 that's just sorry it's not it's a yeah
00:51:23 it's it's a commitment
00:51:25 it's that's what it is you go on the
00:51:27 website and you make your commitment
00:51:28 pleased if you're a man and you believe
00:51:30 in equality and you're one of those cool
00:51:32 male feminists that I've been meeting
00:51:34 recently go go and put your name on our
00:51:37 website
00:51:39 I'm a feminist but I'm not particularly
00:51:40 cool but that's that's fine we like like
00:51:42 that's fine uncool man and welcome to
00:51:44 okay 18 good to know another another
00:51:48 controversial question actually is about
00:51:52 the about what what are you doing to
00:51:54 address the discrimination against men
00:51:57 or violence towards men from women well
00:52:00 first of all we're even acknowledging
00:52:03 that it exists because I think people
00:52:07 don't think this is a thing again it's
00:52:09 like we're not I don't think in the past
00:52:11 we've addressed how men are suffering as
00:52:16 a result of gender and equality this has
00:52:18 not been part of the conversation but it
00:52:20 is you know men are the recipients of
00:52:23 violence and abuse and discrimination
00:52:26 and I think just acknowledging it first
00:52:29 of all as it is is a big step and then
00:52:31 you know we're also trying to give them
00:52:33 a safe space where they feel like they
00:52:34 can talk about these issues whether
00:52:36 previously you know wasn't the fall and
00:52:38 we want to try and you know help and
00:52:41 support and support them um we you know
00:52:46 I think violence against anyone is
00:52:48 apparent and but just because we're
00:52:51 saying it's not right that women are the
00:52:53 recipients of violence we're definitely
00:52:54 not encouraging violence against men
00:52:58 that's definitely not you know how the
00:53:01 logic works um yeah it's equally equally
00:53:05 important one of the wonderful things in
00:53:07 that speech which I keep going back to
00:53:09 cuz it affected me quite a lot I really
00:53:11 you know I've really enjoyed it and I
00:53:12 really connected what you said but the
00:53:15 thing I think a lot of your fans and
00:53:16 people watching this can take away is
00:53:18 when you talked about if not me then who
00:53:20 and if not now then when
00:53:22 and that's again you also underlined the
00:53:24 urgency of this yeah because this is a
00:53:26 problem that is happening right now it's
00:53:29 not really getting much better than what
00:53:31 that's right I've it's really
00:53:32 interesting I like hairless a lot I've
00:53:34 hired my girlfriend's there and I've had
00:53:36 my friends say it - which is just you
00:53:38 know I saw this thing happened today and
00:53:40 my over so rubbish it was just so
00:53:42 embarrassing what they were saying and
00:53:44 so you know whatever else but I just
00:53:46 thought you know Who am I you know or
00:53:49 what good would it do if I said
00:53:50 something it's like the person that was
00:53:54 the recipient of that misogynistic
00:53:57 comment or you know or whatever it was
00:54:00 make a huge difference to them massive
00:54:04 difference to them I could change their
00:54:06 day their month their year maybe even
00:54:08 their life really good so don't don't
00:54:13 ever hear in your own head Who am I to
00:54:15 say something you are a human being you
00:54:19 are a person you can 100% change the
00:54:21 world and it's small ways it's everyday
00:54:25 ways it's it's the little things really
00:54:29 count and really matter and be brave be
00:54:32 brave be brave we have a little bit of
00:54:35 time for some questions from the
00:54:37 audience that's all right
00:54:39 so we do have anybody who would like to
00:54:41 ask a question yours with the speediest
00:54:44 hand I've ever seen that was straight up
00:54:48 the the guy in the Hogwarts jumper so
00:54:51 brace yourself okay I'm braced wait for
00:54:54 the microphone okay hi Emma hi there we
00:54:59 go we're on them yeah hi Anna I'm Thomas
00:55:04 every time I'm involved in a debate
00:55:06 about gender equality specifically equal
00:55:09 pay the most frequent argument are you
00:55:14 against it is that it shouldn't be
00:55:16 fearful women too will be paid the same
00:55:18 as men sorry because it's more likely
00:55:23 for women to be taking time off from
00:55:26 maternity leave obviously that's not
00:55:29 really fair at all not really
00:55:32 what would you have to say to people who
00:55:33 have that argument gosh uh yeah I've
00:55:38 come I've come up a cross I've come
00:55:40 across this argument a lot I guess I
00:55:45 would just say that maternity leave in
00:55:48 this country is around two months two or
00:55:52 three months and I don't think in the
00:55:54 grand scheme of things that's that's the
00:55:57 kind of amount of time that's that's
00:55:59 really going to hinder a woman from
00:56:01 being able to achieve and be incredibly
00:56:04 effective in whatever her particular
00:56:08 field is and I think men should be equal
00:56:13 partners in in raising children I do I
00:56:16 think there shouldn't be an assumption
00:56:19 that having children is something that
00:56:23 only affects women because men women
00:56:27 need men's support in those
00:56:30 circumstances just as much and I think
00:56:35 it's a really unfair assumption to make
00:56:37 that it's only women that are going to
00:56:40 be sidetracked by raising children it's
00:56:43 one of the most important things as a
00:56:45 human being you know that you can be
00:56:47 involved with is fostering and nurturing
00:56:50 a human being and men need to be playing
00:56:53 their part too I don't think it's enough
00:56:57 to to discriminate against a woman or
00:57:00 hold her back or or not to recognize the
00:57:04 potential that she has
00:57:10 thank you Tom great question jumper yeah
00:57:12 great great great question um okay we
00:57:16 have loads more yes
00:57:18 wavy lady hand there yes you have name
00:57:23 tags above every way do you should hi
00:57:27 girl is it working
00:57:29 we on yes baby yes hello hello I am
00:57:32 Sophie if you had the magic power what
00:57:35 would you change to a woman and what
00:57:37 would you convince male employees to
00:57:39 support your action how do I encourage
00:57:42 male police to support women in a place
00:57:45 force and how would you convince male
00:57:48 employees male employees yeah because I
00:57:50 am from a business part to support your
00:57:54 actions to support their sport your
00:57:57 actions how would you how would you
00:57:58 convince male employees to support your
00:58:00 actions in a workplace gosh I mean the
00:58:04 pay gap is such a big one it's like if
00:58:07 you know that a woman is doing exactly
00:58:09 the same work that you are and you know
00:58:11 that she's being paid less be so cool if
00:58:15 you said something about it I would be
00:58:17 amazing that would be so great and if
00:58:21 you're a you know if you're a business
00:58:23 leader or if you if you you know if you
00:58:25 have that power of your country of your
00:58:28 company then you know ask the question
00:58:31 are the women you're employing being
00:58:32 paid the same and make sure that you are
00:58:35 its yeah make sure that you are and um
00:58:41 yeah it's the best managers and yes is
00:58:44 watching this yeah they should be yeah
00:58:47 the things they do next week yeah please
00:58:49 just go through just look at just look
00:58:50 at it look at your figures honestly and
00:58:52 and just see our UK women the same as
00:58:56 men for the same work yes sir in the
00:58:59 purple you might have to wait some time
00:59:02 for this microphone to get parts back
00:59:04 here unless you brought your own
00:59:05 microphone in which case you can use
00:59:06 that
00:59:07 that would be I come prepared he's so
00:59:09 cool III get the opportunity finally hi
00:59:13 Emma
00:59:14 my name is Hersh I wanted to ask you
00:59:17 well firstly I'm a big fan of Hermione
00:59:18 Granger but a bigger fan Emma Watson who
00:59:22 is the face for he for she I think my
00:59:24 question essentially is that if you were
00:59:25 a man would you be equally passionate
00:59:27 about gender equality if I was a man
00:59:30 yes you know it's interesting the other
00:59:34 thing quite hard about this if I was a
00:59:35 man um my I'd say my brother actually
00:59:41 weirdly is more of a feminist than I am
00:59:43 he's he's pretty passionate and we look
00:59:47 a bit like twins so that's it so I can
00:59:49 kind of get myself and I had said no uh
00:59:51 yeah I would I definitely would um
00:59:55 because it's right not because I have a
00:59:59 mother or a sister or you know whatever
01:00:02 just just because just because it's
01:00:06 right are you passionate because you're
01:00:08 a man
01:00:09 good excellent good to see yes Manti in
01:00:15 the front row lovely night yeah I'm
01:00:18 really big fan of your work and my
01:00:20 question is regarding something that I'm
01:00:21 currently studying and it's regarding
01:00:24 gender in the workplace and it's what
01:00:27 would you say are the real causes of
01:00:28 gender inequality in the workplace and
01:00:30 how do you think he for she can help
01:00:32 overcome this problem and in recording
01:00:36 the workplace yeah
01:00:37 Liz Lange talks a lot about it we have
01:00:39 um you know even even though in in
01:00:46 Britain for example we've passed laws
01:00:49 and we've passed legislation there's
01:00:52 still a big gap in in people's minds and
01:00:55 people's mindsets you know traditional
01:00:58 traditions and social change it just
01:01:03 just takes time changing the way that
01:01:06 people think it's this is a slow process
01:01:10 so it's really asking someone the right
01:01:14 question that makes them go ah yeah I
01:01:18 guess that does make sense or I guess
01:01:19 this thing that's happening doesn't
01:01:21 really make sense but I've just accepted
01:01:23 it because that's how things have always
01:01:25 been so I guess it's just questioning
01:01:31 it's being willing to question things
01:01:33 and make up your own mind thank you very
01:01:38 much unfortunately we have run out of
01:01:40 time for audience question we could be
01:01:42 here for our sister but thank you so
01:01:44 much
01:01:45 one final thing from me do you think
01:01:47 that it's possible in our lifetimes to
01:01:49 achieve what you're trying to set out to
01:01:51 achieve gender equality uh at current
01:01:56 rates no I will probably be dead but I
01:02:01 think I'm just gonna refuse to die I
01:02:05 think I'm just gonna be like no I I'm
01:02:09 not gonna do are you're not gonna get
01:02:11 rid of me until I get to see an equal
01:02:16 number of female prime ministers and
01:02:18 presidents and CEOs and more men that
01:02:22 actually feel like it's okay to express
01:02:24 how they really feel about things and
01:02:25 more fathers that are present in their
01:02:29 children's lives and you know and until
01:02:34 I see us all not policing and
01:02:38 ostracizing each other and oppressing
01:02:40 each other and when I live in a world
01:02:42 where there just isn't such a narrowly
01:02:43 defined definition of masculinity and
01:02:46 femininity just not gonna go it just
01:02:50 won't just refuse if someone could
01:02:54 scientifically come up with a way for
01:02:56 that to happen
01:02:57 please please let me know Emily Rose in
01:03:01 crime I'd like to be yeah so that I can
01:03:03 come back and be alive to to witness a
01:03:06 world where as gender equality that
01:03:08 would be called well thank you so much
01:03:10 for your time today
01:03:11 ladies and gentlemen Emma Watson
01:03:28 I love the car
01:03:34 name of your questions thank you very
01:03:37 much aware you are wonderful ordinance
01:03:39 yeah you really were thank you so much
01:03:41 for everyone that came and sent in and
01:03:43 just interacted and engaged with this
01:03:45 it's it's been amazing thank you
01:03:48 and thank you for watching as well if
01:03:50 you've been inspired by what's going on
01:03:51 here today and want to find out more
01:03:53 about the campaign and get on to the he
01:03:54 pushy Facebook page and sign up pledge
01:03:56 your allegiance to it i I've certainly
01:03:59 been galvanized into it and I and I am
01:04:02 one of them so keep your eye on Em00:00:03 hello everybody and welcome good
00:00:06 afternoon Facebook fans we are live from
00:00:08 the Facebook offices in central London
00:00:11 on International Women's Day my name is
00:00:13 Greg James and today I'll be joined by
00:00:15 British actor and UN Women Global
00:00:17 goodwill ambassador to whom
00:00:19 International Women's Day
00:00:20 means a lot last year she gave a very
00:00:23 memorable speech an incredible speech
00:00:25 sensational speech really on gender
00:00:27 equality launching the he for she
00:00:29 campaign please join me everybody and
00:00:31 make a lot of noise for the wonderful
00:00:32 Emma Watson
00:00:45 welcome
00:00:54 well that's the lovely reaction we
00:00:56 haven't even said anything yet I know
00:00:57 how does that anything that's really
00:00:59 good thank you all so much for coming
00:01:00 and thank you very much for watching and
00:01:02 thanks for getting me involved it's real
00:01:04 a real honor to be part of this
00:01:06 I watched the speech when it was we did
00:01:09 it in September and I felt absolutely
00:01:11 compelled to do something so I was
00:01:13 really happy to to be asked to get
00:01:14 involved great to have you here are you
00:01:16 feeling well you are you good and happy
00:01:18 I'm good I'm a little nervous but I'm
00:01:20 very excited I'm very very very excited
00:01:22 that's good this is amazing that respect
00:01:25 I've done this well so your Facebook fan
00:01:27 page had just passed 30 million fans I
00:01:31 even I can't even wrap my head around
00:01:33 that 30 million is a lot of people yeah
00:01:36 so many people it's a lot people
00:01:38 watching this right now and you and you
00:01:40 keep up to date with your fans and
00:01:41 that's you like the conversation between
00:01:43 you and your fans on there I really do I
00:01:46 think it's been such an amazing tool for
00:01:47 me because I can instantly and directly
00:01:51 share things that are really important
00:01:53 to me and it's really personal no it's
00:01:57 it's it's really nice to be able to do
00:02:00 that really nice do you get addicted to
00:02:01 it because you just there's so much
00:02:03 common place in the whole time because I
00:02:04 do get a bit addicted actually yeah it's
00:02:07 um it's so nice cuz you just you get
00:02:09 instant feedback to things and I'm
00:02:12 particularly with he for she I'm so
00:02:14 interested to see you know what you guys
00:02:16 think and what you know and it's it's so
00:02:19 nice to see things that I'm saying like
00:02:21 starting debates and conversation and I
00:02:24 love seeing how you know all of that
00:02:27 unravels really it's it's really fun
00:02:30 well the video that you put up to talk
00:02:32 about this specific conversation was
00:02:34 viewed at 17 million times I mean that's
00:02:37 that's crazy number so a lot of people
00:02:38 are watching today and by the way if you
00:02:40 have got questions please put in the
00:02:41 comments and we can try and get to them
00:02:43 as the conversation goes on we have so
00:02:45 much to talk about so let's let's get
00:02:46 started we're live at the Facebook
00:02:48 offices today and we'll get some fan
00:02:51 questions later which we'll have time
00:02:53 for but I want to talk about that speech
00:02:55 that you did on the 20th of September
00:02:57 now obviously talking at the UN is
00:02:59 an incredibly nerve-racking thing to do
00:03:02 I imagine I'm not going to only imagine
00:03:03 I haven't actually spoken at the UN yet
00:03:05 they haven't asked me yet but what what
00:03:08 was the mission statement what was going
00:03:11 through your head and the morning of
00:03:12 that speech what was the mission
00:03:13 statement you wanted to get across um I
00:03:16 guess I really wanted to communicate
00:03:17 that gender equality historically has
00:03:21 been predominantly a woman's movement
00:03:22 for women but I think the impact of
00:03:27 gender inequality and how it's actually
00:03:29 been affecting men hasn't really been
00:03:31 addressed and so I really wanted to make
00:03:34 that one of the clearest messages in my
00:03:36 speech and I think also our society in
00:03:39 general D values that she and you know
00:03:42 when I say that I mean qualities that
00:03:43 are associated with the feminine which
00:03:44 are found in all of us and as a result
00:03:47 there's kind of this imbalance and this
00:03:50 distortion and it's just hindering our
00:03:53 progress it's causing discrimination and
00:03:56 violence and pain and fear the world
00:03:59 over all the way you know all over and I
00:04:03 just wanted to desensitize people to the
00:04:04 issues and make them feel that they
00:04:07 could be part of the problem and that
00:04:09 that they can make a difference and to
00:04:11 give people a voice on a platform with
00:04:14 which to do that with which to make
00:04:18 change so it's quite a lot to fit into
00:04:21 into eight minutes but I did my best
00:04:24 tried to cram it all in um yeah it was
00:04:27 difficult I really wanted to try and
00:04:28 reach as many different people as
00:04:30 possible in a very short space of time
00:04:33 what are the immediate reactions from
00:04:35 your fans and from the people that know
00:04:37 you what what the reactions after that
00:04:39 speech what was said immediately how did
00:04:42 you feel after you've done it did you
00:04:43 feel like you absolutely got every point
00:04:45 across did you feel that that was that
00:04:46 was the nice and lovely moment because
00:04:49 like one of the most surreal moments of
00:04:50 my life I have to say I remember at the
00:04:53 end of it
00:04:54 seeing people start to stand up and it
00:04:57 was like something from a dream or a
00:04:59 film or I thought maybe I died and it's
00:05:02 I was just really surreal mommy didn't
00:05:06 die I didn't die
00:05:07 um but kind of a little bit I felt like
00:05:09 I could I sound really cheesy but I felt
00:05:12 like I could sort of die happy I had
00:05:14 sort of done kind of what the most
00:05:17 important thing I might ever do I had I
00:05:21 had I would I was shaking I was so
00:05:23 nervous but at least I got it out there
00:05:26 like I'd managed to manage to voice the
00:05:28 words I've managed to I'd managed to get
00:05:30 it out and that was big so you talked a
00:05:33 lot about inviting men to help fight
00:05:35 sexism so what was the reaction from the
00:05:38 men around you and your male fans what
00:05:40 were they saying um I was really
00:05:44 touching because I got a lot of emails
00:05:47 from you know my pear group so guys I
00:05:52 was at university where they're all guys
00:05:53 I was at school with but I got a lot of
00:05:56 emails from men had worked with you know
00:06:00 there was just a real the demographic of
00:06:04 men I reached it was sort of like
00:06:06 everywhere from my dad and my dad's
00:06:09 friends all the way down to my little
00:06:11 brother Toby you know being being all
00:06:16 about it as well so I was really that
00:06:19 was really cool yeah the the support you
00:06:22 got from other celebrities was also
00:06:24 incredible and there was a huge Drive
00:06:26 pitched on social media and all the rest
00:06:28 of it who are the ones that you were
00:06:29 most proud of reaching and you were so
00:06:31 happy that they were joining in this
00:06:33 campaign as well yeah I mean just
00:06:36 incredible I'd like a personal letter
00:06:38 from the Archbishop of Canterbury and
00:06:41 you know I had you know it was just mad
00:06:43 it was amazing and but but you know we
00:06:46 have also had we just actually launched
00:06:50 a new program called impact on by ten by
00:06:51 ten and we have these impact champions
00:06:53 who are pilot piloting he for she
00:06:56 programs within you know whether it's
00:06:58 their government or whether it's their
00:07:00 school or their business and
00:07:02 we've actually had the country of Sweden
00:07:04 the country of the Netherlands
00:07:06 we've had Sierra Leone Unilever PwC
00:07:09 Barclays Tupperware sunny University
00:07:12 Oxford University yes and and we're
00:07:16 announcing a lot more on March 10th I'm
00:07:18 not allowed to say who those other
00:07:19 people are but we I mean it's just
00:07:22 incredible to have to have that kind of
00:07:25 support you know on those kind of levels
00:07:26 you know and then and then all the way
00:07:28 down to you know I've had I read a
00:07:31 letter from a 13 year old boy this this
00:07:34 morning um who was you know hopefully as
00:07:37 passionate as the CEO of Unilever so
00:07:40 that's that's amazing has only been five
00:07:42 months I mean that's I think that's the
00:07:44 other thing is it's it's well I think I
00:07:46 feel like it's made a huge impact in
00:07:47 those five months and obviously it's
00:07:49 very important that that your fans and
00:07:51 the general public are getting behind
00:07:53 this but you do need those corporations
00:07:54 to help push those messages home so it
00:07:56 sounds like everything's going pretty
00:07:57 well so far
00:07:58 it is it is and yeah I think you know in
00:08:02 terms of mail reactions I think I might
00:08:04 have been like yeah we're on board but
00:08:05 now we're not really sure exactly how to
00:08:07 help it can be there a little bit still
00:08:10 a little bit fearful and still a little
00:08:11 bit confused of okay so how do i how do
00:08:13 I do this exactly and I guess I just say
00:08:17 that you know even the small gestures to
00:08:20 the tiller really big ones it all makes
00:08:22 it all changes and impacts somebody
00:08:24 else's life so I saw one thing I know
00:08:26 you're very excited about with Steve
00:08:27 Carell who wore the he / she cufflinks
00:08:29 at the Oscars now always talked about
00:08:31 this because I he's kind of my hero and
00:08:33 I know he's you're a big fan of him too
00:08:35 so what was it like to see in action to
00:08:37 see that people were just it was that
00:08:39 that's a very subtle but lovely thing to
00:08:40 do isn't wearing like wearing some cuff
00:08:41 links so yeah things like that month you
00:08:43 must meet you go okay things are
00:08:45 happening completely you know I I had no
00:08:50 idea that he was gonna do that and then
00:08:51 um you know it's just it's just so
00:08:56 overwhelming and humbling when men want
00:08:59 to show their support like that
00:09:01 it's just it's just so nice it really is
00:09:04 and it does spread awareness and it does
00:09:08 make a difference and
00:09:09 you know even if like two people on that
00:09:10 night asked him what his like what is
00:09:13 your cuff link what does that mean what
00:09:15 is that and he said oh well you know I
00:09:16 am taking a stand for gender equality
00:09:18 yeah you know that fat itself that's
00:09:21 huge so what are some of the things that
00:09:24 you're asking your facebook fans to do
00:09:26 to be part of he pushy what are some of
00:09:28 the things that they can actually you
00:09:29 know take part in or do well uh first
00:09:33 off um I have a an amazing number of
00:09:38 male Facebook fans I'm I need to check
00:09:41 the number because it's so many it's so
00:09:43 crazy I can't even believe it but um
00:09:46 yeah we only have 200,000 commitments on
00:09:52 he fishy org so Facebook fans one thing
00:09:56 you can do that's right now even if you
00:09:58 want to is go to the clip sheet org and
00:10:01 make the commitment we still we still
00:10:03 need more men signing up on that
00:10:05 petition yeah so that that's that's
00:10:10 definitely that's definitely a really
00:10:12 good way and you know and then I think
00:10:18 it's really cute I asked my I have my
00:10:21 younger sister this morning I was like
00:10:22 what would be the one thing will be the
00:10:24 one thing that you would want from from
00:10:26 the boys and your life from from the men
00:10:28 in your life
00:10:29 she just then she went I just want them
00:10:34 to want to play with us
00:10:36 like just one I just warned you know and
00:10:39 and again I was like well that that
00:10:41 translates at every level like we just
00:10:44 want to be included we just you know we
00:10:47 just want yeah we just want to be
00:10:51 included I was like wow yeah it's really
00:10:54 very concisely done that and then for
00:10:56 women I think it's really acknowledging
00:11:00 or feeling comfortable or confident
00:11:02 enough to acknowledge that there is
00:11:03 actually a problem because it's
00:11:10 uncomfortable it's all quiz to it to
00:11:12 acknowledge that there is a problem but
00:11:14 we need to understand that we are
00:11:16 complicit
00:11:17 and another sort of anecdote is that you
00:11:24 know a lot of the yeah just a lot of the
00:11:30 criticism I've ever had in my life in
00:11:31 with the harshest moments of criticism
00:11:33 war some of the hardest moments I've had
00:11:35 have been comments from other women and
00:11:39 you know it's not just enough to ask men
00:11:42 to come in and support us we really need
00:11:45 to support each other we really do so
00:11:50 you know I guess I would say being brave
00:11:53 enough to acknowledge that that things
00:11:55 aren't there yet and and also you know
00:11:58 supporting each other
00:12:00 we talked a lot about in your speech for
00:12:02 the UN about the term feminism and and I
00:12:08 suppose making sure people understand
00:12:10 what you mean by that and what people
00:12:11 mean by the term feminism but I mean
00:12:14 what what what's your understanding of
00:12:16 it what did you want to try and put
00:12:17 across because there's lots of people I
00:12:19 think a lot of people don't know what
00:12:20 that necessarily means it and I think
00:12:22 you said something like it was a not a
00:12:24 dirty word but it was a word that people
00:12:26 are afraid of using people are reluctant
00:12:29 to use it why do you think that is
00:12:31 because I think people associate it with
00:12:33 with hate with with man hate and and
00:12:39 that's that's really negative and I
00:12:43 don't think that's what feminism is
00:12:45 about at all I think it's actually
00:12:46 something incredibly positive so I think
00:12:49 that's why women became very reluctant
00:12:52 to use that word but I think that's
00:12:56 changing which is really cool I've I'm
00:13:00 aware of a lot more male feminists now
00:13:02 yeah and I was a few years ago and it's
00:13:04 it's really heartening and people have
00:13:09 come back to what the actual definition
00:13:10 means which is equality politically
00:13:14 culturally socially economically that's
00:13:18 it but even if that simple you know that
00:13:19 small message gets through now yeah I
00:13:21 mean I'm trying to me what I was like
00:13:22 when I was 15 yeah I was 15 year old boy
00:13:24 typical teenage boy if some said to you
00:13:27 are you a feminist you know well
00:13:29 obviously not
00:13:30 I think that that but now it should be
00:13:33 you know if by that you mean I would
00:13:36 like many women to be treated equally
00:13:38 paid the same and you know all that kind
00:13:40 of thing I would say yes I am a feminist
00:13:42 but I think that's a very simple thing
00:13:44 for people to try and grasp hold of it
00:13:46 is I I think um man think it's a woman's
00:13:50 word but it is only women it's only for
00:13:52 women but it really just means that you
00:13:55 believe in equality and if you stand for
00:13:57 equality then you're a feminist sorry to
00:14:00 tell you you you're a feminist I'm sorry
00:14:03 you you're a feminist that's it so from
00:14:07 this this point on what what are the
00:14:08 things that you're going to working on
00:14:09 in the next few weeks next couple of
00:14:11 months what the next targets for you
00:14:13 next target for me well I'm gonna harp
00:14:16 on about this but again you know getting
00:14:18 warm and sign up to the petition because
00:14:19 200 thousands just not we're not there
00:14:22 yet
00:14:22 we need we need more signing a petition
00:14:25 so that and then and then really it it's
00:14:28 working on the impact on my turn my turn
00:14:29 and you know we've had this amazing
00:14:32 groundswell of support and now we want
00:14:35 to empower people to be able to take
00:14:37 action and make change and actually you
00:14:41 know translate that passion into into
00:14:44 really doing something so we're trying
00:14:46 to support people with that and we've
00:14:48 been collecting he fishes stories so
00:14:51 people have been sending a sauce put
00:14:52 their stories and I spent four hours
00:14:53 reading these they are absolutely
00:14:55 amazing thank you so much for sending
00:14:57 them in I mean it's it's just really
00:15:01 heartening actually I go to bed at night
00:15:03 feeling really optimistic about the
00:15:08 state of affairs in the world because I
00:15:10 can see that there are people that
00:15:11 really want to make a difference and it
00:15:13 just it's really cool who are the people
00:15:16 that inspired you the females in your
00:15:19 life yeah maybe once you knew your
00:15:21 family but also the ones that you
00:15:22 watched on telly or you read things that
00:15:25 they've written who are the people that
00:15:26 inspired you um what's Mother's Day seen
00:15:29 so I guess your beers choices is my own
00:15:33 mum she was a single working mother
00:15:38 she's also type 1 diabetic
00:15:41 so seeing her strength and resilience
00:15:44 and was really inspiring growing up
00:15:47 really inspiring and I think she
00:15:50 instilled in me you know particularly in
00:15:53 my teenage years when I was feeling very
00:15:55 insecure and confused about what my
00:15:59 purpose was um she really really
00:16:03 instilled in me that what I was thinking
00:16:06 and what I was doing and what I was
00:16:08 saying were ultimately infinitely more
00:16:12 important than my physical appearance
00:16:14 even when the world was really telling
00:16:17 me the contrary so and she really she
00:16:23 really encouraged me to be an individual
00:16:24 I remember her being thrilled when I got
00:16:28 my first attention because she was ten
00:16:31 she was really worried I think that I
00:16:33 was gonna be a bit straight-laced and
00:16:35 was it all oh I failed her last minute
00:16:37 BAM I failed an exam Eliza detention
00:16:41 yeah I fell well I think I felt a few
00:16:43 times actually maybe more than one
00:16:45 anyway that's not going to that but no
00:16:47 but I think she did she wanted me to be
00:16:49 my own person and she thought a bit of
00:16:52 rebellion was was a good thing um I'm
00:16:55 not sure how failing my last examples
00:16:57 rebelling but we'll say well we'll go
00:17:00 with that um so yeah my mom she's
00:17:04 awesome yeah it's great lady we
00:17:06 mentioned at the start about the speech
00:17:08 at the UN talked a bit about how the
00:17:11 partnership with the UN came about
00:17:13 because this is a the UN obviously is a
00:17:16 huge organization and when they
00:17:20 approached you of did you approach then
00:17:21 how did it come about so um I I had
00:17:25 already been working for I'd already
00:17:28 been working for fair trade for a fair
00:17:30 trade company which was supporting women
00:17:33 abroad so that they had sort of economic
00:17:35 independence
00:17:37 and then I was also working for a
00:17:39 charity called Camfed which provides
00:17:42 scholarships for girls in countries
00:17:43 where they wouldn't normally get to go
00:17:45 usually it's boys that get sent and
00:17:48 girls don't get really passed primary
00:17:50 school education so so I've been doing
00:17:53 work with that so I think they knew
00:17:55 where my interests where they lie and
00:18:00 they so they reached out to me and then
00:18:03 we still had this amazing conversation
00:18:05 with with Elizabeth who works for UN
00:18:08 she's new audience and it was really
00:18:11 just a meeting of minds because she said
00:18:14 well you know we have this thing called
00:18:16 he for she and it's you know and I went
00:18:18 oh my god you know it's completely my
00:18:21 take on feminism that we need to be
00:18:23 including men in the conversation we
00:18:24 need to be including them in the
00:18:25 dialogue I have four brothers
00:18:27 I can see gender inequality is affecting
00:18:29 them just as much as it's affecting me
00:18:31 we need to open up the dialogue we need
00:18:34 to give men a space where they feel that
00:18:36 they can talk about this issue um and
00:18:38 she was like well what's what is and she
00:18:40 gave me the baton and I've kind of been
00:18:42 running as hard with it as I can ever
00:18:43 since so it would just kind of felt very
00:18:47 like very meant to be and I was clearing
00:18:51 out my room
00:18:52 a few months ago and found you know
00:18:55 essays I've written when I essays and
00:18:56 diary entries I've written when I was 15
00:18:58 and I can sort of seen with hindsight
00:19:00 that that speech had sort of been
00:19:03 gestating in my head for for a long time
00:19:06 and I mean I never thought I'd be
00:19:08 working for the UN it was just amazing
00:19:10 but um I think it felt like that when we
00:19:13 watched it I think people would agree
00:19:14 for watching and in here I think we
00:19:16 would agree with that that that's been
00:19:17 percolating quite a while
00:19:18 so what were the things when you were
00:19:20 growing up that you couldn't but in
00:19:21 hindsight you now go that was unfair
00:19:23 that was not that was not cool what were
00:19:25 things we would want to change initially
00:19:27 if there was one thing you could just
00:19:28 stamp out right now it would there be
00:19:29 something I mean I've been incredibly
00:19:36 I've been incredibly lucky I really have
00:19:40 been supported and had access to just a
00:19:45 lot of opportunities that women in other
00:19:48 countries probably aren't so
00:19:49 you you know I I would never complain
00:19:52 about my personal situation but gosh I
00:20:00 guess it's just I think it starts young
00:20:06 I think it starts really young with
00:20:09 girls and boys being told what they have
00:20:12 to be and it can just be really damaging
00:20:15 I think yeah I mean it's difficult
00:20:22 because I have been incredibly fortunate
00:20:24 and I you know I think I just just
00:20:33 encourage and include each other
00:20:35 don't try and sort of ostracize each
00:20:37 other and and and and just don't just
00:20:43 have an open mind and don't have
00:20:45 expectations based based on on the
00:20:48 gender and all the sex you see you see
00:20:50 in front of you I mean there was a BBC
00:20:51 report today just about the fact that in
00:20:54 maths and science and engineering and in
00:20:56 all of these other subjects that girls
00:20:58 just aren't aren't doing as well and and
00:21:01 the biggest reason they say for that is
00:21:02 because these are generally associated
00:21:04 to be male male subjects and so women or
00:21:09 young girls feel that if they did those
00:21:11 subjects they would be inherently less
00:21:13 attractive and you know that's that's
00:21:16 another example of you know dispel that
00:21:18 myth you know like it does it doesn't
00:21:23 need to be like that it was interesting
00:21:24 what you said about your brothers um
00:21:26 experiencing gender equality yeah um in
00:21:29 what way I mean not specific necessary
00:21:31 but what in what way does that have they
00:21:32 spoken to you about it from a male
00:21:34 perspective um I think there's a lot of
00:21:38 posturing that goes on um with with men
00:21:42 and I just had my brother say to me a
00:21:45 few times that he's like I just can't be
00:21:48 around the way that some of my guy
00:21:52 friends talk about girls it just like I
00:21:55 don't not sure they even know what they
00:21:57 mean when they're saying it but it's
00:21:59 like they're imitating something that in
00:22:01 hating this this thing that they think
00:22:03 they have to be this this male idea and
00:22:07 he's like I just feel really constrained
00:22:09 by that and it really upsets me I had a
00:22:14 very similar letter from a man in the
00:22:16 military said that he experiences that a
00:22:19 lot it's a I think we don't acknowledge
00:22:25 how much pressure we put on men to
00:22:28 conform to a son perception of
00:22:30 masculinity I don't think we do
00:22:33 so yeah it's not it's nice it's nice to
00:22:38 hear that and seeing how upset they get
00:22:42 when you know for example after I gave
00:22:47 my speech in September I wasn't going to
00:22:50 talk about this but it's coming up you
00:22:53 know there there was a website that was
00:22:57 set up threatening to release naked
00:22:59 photographs of me you know with like a
00:23:03 countdown and whatever else and I knew
00:23:06 it was a hoax I mean I knew the pictures
00:23:08 didn't exist but I think I think a lot
00:23:13 of people that were close to me knew
00:23:16 gender equality was an issue but they
00:23:17 didn't really think it was that urgent
00:23:18 or particularly you know we live we live
00:23:21 in Great Britain you know this isn't it
00:23:23 this is this is a thing of the past
00:23:25 John you know oppression of women it's
00:23:28 sort of we're fine aren't we we're good
00:23:30 we've we've got far enough and then when
00:23:32 they saw that the minute I stepped up
00:23:35 and talked about women's rights I was
00:23:37 immediately threatened I mean within
00:23:39 less than 12 hours I was receiving
00:23:41 threats and I think I think they were
00:23:44 really shocked and and particular one of
00:23:46 my brother's was very upset so I think
00:23:50 it was just a wake-up call of like oh
00:23:52 this was like a real thing that's really
00:23:54 happening now like now women are
00:23:57 receiving threats in all sorts of
00:24:00 different forms that was just one
00:24:02 specific one and I think has upset that
00:24:05 the media immediately reported it as
00:24:08 fact without
00:24:11 any evidence to the contrary
00:24:14 and and you know and it really just
00:24:17 publicized something that was really
00:24:18 really negative um but I mean if then
00:24:24 it's funny because people like oh she's
00:24:25 going to be disheartened by this if
00:24:27 anything it made me so much more
00:24:29 determined I was just just raging I just
00:24:33 I was just it made me so angry that I
00:24:37 was just like this is why this needs to
00:24:40 be this is why I have to be doing this
00:24:41 this is why I have to be doing this um
00:24:43 so if anything it it's um you know it
00:24:48 actually if they were trying to put me
00:24:49 off it did feel the opposite so what was
00:24:52 it
00:24:53 absolutely well there's a wonderful
00:24:54 message to that there was a despicable
00:24:56 thing to do but you know as you say
00:24:58 nasty things happen all the time it's
00:25:01 the way you deal with them and the way
00:25:02 you can channel that into into something
00:25:04 please that's all that energy doable
00:25:07 that Anna channel that anger absolutely
00:25:09 channel that anger um I thought it's
00:25:11 absolutely fantastic when you were
00:25:13 talking about I kind of wrote down some
00:25:17 notes actually I was watching it cuz I
00:25:19 wrote down be the aggressive versus
00:25:21 submissive kind of argument between boys
00:25:23 and girls from a young age and also you
00:25:27 talking about both being free to be
00:25:29 sensitive and strong male men and women
00:25:32 yeah and where were you when I was 15 or
00:25:36 someone to say that do you know that's
00:25:37 because I I've always been a massive
00:25:39 softie I love Coldplay I'm I've really
00:25:44 that I needed but you know but when
00:25:46 you're surrounded if I I've played a lot
00:25:47 cricket a lot sports for school and you
00:25:49 have a lot of Ruth there's that and that
00:25:53 was not something that I really liked
00:25:54 particularly and so it needed I think I
00:25:59 think that's a really powerful message
00:26:00 to to everyone watching this now who's
00:26:03 going through going through puberty
00:26:05 going through those teenage years but so
00:26:07 difficult it's so horrible I mean you
00:26:09 don't know what you I don't know what's
00:26:10 going on so I think someone like you
00:26:11 standing up and saying things like nice
00:26:13 really important and you must feel that
00:26:14 from your fans the feedback from people
00:26:16 must have been yeah thank God you said
00:26:17 something like this
00:26:18 oh yeah I hope so I mean I'm really
00:26:22 genuinely disturbed by this idea that
00:26:25 men can't cry and and like and that they
00:26:28 can't they just can't express themselves
00:26:30 they can't talk about how they actually
00:26:32 feel I think that's actually the saddest
00:26:35 thing in the world it's so bad
00:26:37 I can cry believe me excellent like
00:26:39 awesome anthem it's crazy it's what
00:26:42 makes you human like how you feel being
00:26:45 able to express yourself being
00:26:47 passionate being emotional it's what
00:26:48 makes you human
00:26:49 it's not what makes you a girl it's what
00:26:52 makes you human
00:26:53 I mean it it's you know it's if you've
00:26:56 got a beating heart and you care about
00:26:58 things that's great
00:27:00 that's so good um so yeah good yeah
00:27:06 let's move on to some fun question Terry
00:27:08 um so what happened was you put Emma put
00:27:12 on some put on your Facebook fan page
00:27:15 give me some questions and I will try
00:27:17 and answer them there were so many
00:27:19 questions that what we decided to do was
00:27:22 we look through them and just thought
00:27:23 the the big themes okay of the question
00:27:26 so we'll we'll start off with I'll start
00:27:30 with this question here so the Heba
00:27:34 sheet supporters would like to know how
00:27:36 gender equality has affected you
00:27:37 personally and have you been
00:27:39 discriminated personally against because
00:27:43 of your gender and if so how did you
00:27:44 deal with it
00:27:46 good question well um yes I have um you
00:27:57 know I when I was looking I was going
00:27:59 through comments the whistlin in for
00:28:00 this for this Q&A and most of them were
00:28:06 really thoughtful and and great and then
00:28:08 I know one and then I was going through
00:28:10 one popped up which was just Emma why
00:28:12 aren't you in the kitchen
00:28:16 um I went hmm okay uh interesting and
00:28:20 you know it's interesting because when I
00:28:22 was younger my brothers actually used to
00:28:25 say things like that to me because as a
00:28:27 joke because they knew I would get I
00:28:30 would get riled up I'd get a you know
00:28:32 they'd get a rise out of me basically as
00:28:34 I was thinking about this I think about
00:28:37 you know when do you engage and when do
00:28:40 you not and and how do you have a
00:28:43 meaningful dialogue on this topic when
00:28:47 perhaps one isn't isn't really being
00:28:50 wanted and and so I guess what I would
00:28:54 tell my younger self if someone said
00:28:57 that to me then and you know and how I
00:29:00 feel about it now is that I know that
00:29:04 I'm not alone in this fight that it's an
00:29:07 education problem and that it's it in
00:29:10 the not-too-distant future I really hope
00:29:12 that most people will be horrified by a
00:29:16 comment like that as opposed to sort of
00:29:18 mildly act and so I guess you know it's
00:29:26 just I have a much calmer conviction now
00:29:29 I think that I used to when I was
00:29:30 younger I mean I still I still it still
00:29:33 does upset me and it's good that it
00:29:35 upsets me because it should but you know
00:29:39 I think I know the difference between
00:29:41 knowing when to knowing when someone
00:29:44 wants to have you know a meaningful
00:29:47 dialogue about gender equality and when
00:29:50 someone just just you know just wants to
00:29:54 get a rise out of you I think there's
00:29:57 quite a lot of discussion about gender
00:29:59 equality in the developing world and
00:30:02 that's obviously a big a huge problem as
00:30:05 we mentioned earlier about the the
00:30:07 traditional route in many countries
00:30:09 would be for boys to go to school
00:30:11 secondary school girls not to how would
00:30:13 you how does that make you feel first of
00:30:16 all and what would you like to see over
00:30:17 the next few years
00:30:19 gosh I just I mean first of all
00:30:23 if someone had told me that my brother
00:30:25 could go to school but I couldn't
00:30:27 because I was a girl I just would have
00:30:29 been so hot and so baffled and so why
00:30:34 and the fact that this is still going on
00:30:36 you know the world over uh really it's
00:30:41 something that really needs to be
00:30:42 addressed but I guess I just say how and
00:30:45 why are you not recognizing the
00:30:47 potential of that girl what why are you
00:30:51 not recognizing what she can bring to
00:30:53 the table and um we need we need yin
00:31:00 yang we we need that balance and we need
00:31:04 female representation we need female
00:31:07 leadership um women women have so much
00:31:12 to offer
00:31:13 with such an untapped um part of of this
00:31:19 world so much potential just gets wasted
00:31:22 because girls aren't encouraged in the
00:31:25 same way that men are we can we can
00:31:27 achieve so much it's interesting cuz I
00:31:30 literally this morning came back from a
00:31:32 comic relief trip in Uganda and we and
00:31:34 we're focused in a in a village called
00:31:36 Ilhwa which is they just put a new
00:31:37 health center there apart of Coralie
00:31:39 from them and it was a perhaps that the
00:31:41 fascinating experience and visiting some
00:31:43 local schools and things to see there
00:31:46 were many many girls there
00:31:48 things are changing but in just me it
00:31:50 needs campaigns like he pushy I think to
00:31:52 really push this message home that it's
00:31:54 not it's it's a global problem but some
00:31:57 of them mate amazing things about the
00:31:59 sign up of men so far to the website is
00:32:01 that it there's there's men in every
00:32:04 country that was signed up to this yeah
00:32:06 so it is it is reaching that global
00:32:08 audiences maybe it definitely is and I
00:32:09 don't know I think even in even in
00:32:12 Britain you know we have an equal number
00:32:14 of women at university as men but then
00:32:17 in a certain point we're just dropping
00:32:18 out we're just we just aren't being
00:32:21 encouraged into those leadership
00:32:23 positions we're just not we're not
00:32:27 getting past a certain point
00:32:29 and so yes it needs addressing abroad
00:32:32 but it still needs addressing here you
00:32:34 know it in in the West we don't we're
00:32:37 not there yet at all we've still got so
00:32:39 much work that we need to do and and
00:32:42 that we need to pioneer what do you say
00:32:45 to the people that message you on your
00:32:47 social networks and say someone said I
00:32:49 can't do an engineering course because I
00:32:52 am a girl and this is a this must be
00:32:54 great it's regular isn't it people say
00:32:56 me softly no it is regular oh just don't
00:33:00 let anyone tell you what you can or
00:33:04 cannot do or can or cannot achieve just
00:33:06 don't allow it just do not allow it um
00:33:10 it's wrong it's so wrong um be whatever
00:33:15 you want to be and and that's the
00:33:18 amazing thing about social media is that
00:33:20 you know whatever wherever you live in
00:33:23 the world or whatever conditioning or
00:33:25 whatever the people around you might
00:33:28 think you can access whole community of
00:33:30 other people think differently and
00:33:32 they'll want to support you and you know
00:33:35 it was that was a crazy moment for me
00:33:38 was you know not really thinking I just
00:33:40 responded immediately to this girl who
00:33:42 take say no my dad says girls can't be
00:33:46 engineers and I just said well and what
00:33:48 can I do you know about this of them go
00:33:50 and be an engineer just going pretty
00:33:52 mom's can do it and and then within you
00:33:55 know a couple of hours three or four
00:33:58 different engineering academies
00:34:00 fellowships whatever else had I had
00:34:02 contacted her and said women can
00:34:03 definitely be engineers and we'd love to
00:34:05 help you do that and that's amazing
00:34:07 that's so amazing
00:34:09 that's the amazing thing about what
00:34:10 social media can do is it is it is it
00:34:13 connects people in the world to it to a
00:34:15 community that they might not be able to
00:34:16 access directly around them and and
00:34:18 helps them you know think think bigger
00:34:21 we have someone in the audience would
00:34:23 like to ask a question where is Ella
00:34:25 please Ella are you here now hold on we
00:34:30 need to get your microphone otherwise no
00:34:31 one's going to hear you so there you go
00:34:34 and like
00:34:37 we can hear you and media States you
00:34:41 earn less in your film roles in the
00:34:43 Harry Potter series and then Daniel
00:34:45 Radcliffe and Rupert Grint
00:34:46 is it true and how can we address the
00:34:49 issue of unequal pay between men and
00:34:51 women good question thank you
00:34:55 interesting question thank you
00:34:58 I don't think I would ever even dream of
00:35:01 complaining about my personal
00:35:03 circumstances but yes that is a big
00:35:08 problem in my industry in the film
00:35:10 industry in industry which which I work
00:35:13 currently females comprise 7% of
00:35:18 directors 7% 19.7% writers 2.2 percent
00:35:25 our producers 13% executives are women
00:35:28 in the film industry and and we know
00:35:32 that when you have a female writer when
00:35:35 you have a female director you know
00:35:37 there's a there's a higher you know
00:35:41 representation of women so so that's a
00:35:44 pretty huge huge problem um which yes I
00:35:50 need to which needs to be addressed so
00:35:52 yeah thank you for the question those
00:35:54 statistics are terrible no no I think
00:35:58 it's really bad it's really really
00:36:00 really bad I think we saw that
00:36:03 acknowledged at the Oscars this year I
00:36:05 think there is there's an awareness but
00:36:07 you know 7% of directors of female 7%
00:36:11 why are we not telling women's stories
00:36:14 why are women not telling their own
00:36:16 stories directing their own stories it's
00:36:19 crazy it's got to be done so where does
00:36:22 that start is it I mean obviously he for
00:36:24 she it's very much men and women
00:36:25 standing together working together to
00:36:28 become you know for it for it to be for
00:36:30 it to become a normal thing that
00:36:31 everyone is equal
00:36:32 so where does it begin in tackling it in
00:36:35 a thing like the film industry how do
00:36:36 you start that that the moments when
00:36:38 I've struggled with it in my own life as
00:36:40 a woman which is some reason women are
00:36:43 still in the place where we feel like we
00:36:44 need to be given permission
00:36:46 like we'd some what we need permission
00:36:48 to be our full selves to use our full
00:36:53 voice to to to want to lead and I think
00:37:04 that has to change
00:37:05 we're with encouragement and role models
00:37:07 and you know just changing that changing
00:37:12 that mindset a lot of the comments that
00:37:14 I read on on your Facebook page were
00:37:17 from a new generation of activists I
00:37:20 suppose so your young fans who have
00:37:22 grown up watching you and you know been
00:37:25 a fan of yours for many years and they
00:37:26 are a new generation it makes me so
00:37:28 happy to hear you calling my fans like
00:37:31 activists it's so cool right that's true
00:37:33 they really are they are they're a
00:37:36 powerful army really yeah um seriously
00:37:39 and but I can galvanize so many
00:37:41 different types of people as well so a
00:37:43 lot of the comments were sort of saying
00:37:45 okay I'm on board
00:37:47 yeah what now what what do I need to do
00:37:50 give me some give me some instructions
00:37:51 me see the structure so if there's
00:37:53 there's boys and girls watching this
00:37:55 right now yeah back to school tomorrow
00:37:57 yeah what are the things that they can
00:37:59 do I like shouting about things are they
00:38:01 saying you shouldn't really talk about
00:38:02 women that way what what are the things
00:38:04 that they could do the simple everyday
00:38:05 things gosh well you know it's quite I
00:38:10 think I think people feel intimidated
00:38:12 because they feel like they have to come
00:38:14 up with like some grand huge scheme that
00:38:17 you know it's not as complicated or
00:38:21 intimidating as that actually it's it's
00:38:24 everyday it's individuals it's it's on a
00:38:29 case-by-case basis taking action just
00:38:32 doing something whether it's speaking up
00:38:38 whether it's you
00:38:42 just trying to change the way that that
00:38:44 someone else thinks about the issues um
00:38:47 it's it's a it can be done in so many
00:38:52 different ways and the story is that
00:38:54 I've been I've been getting are a
00:38:55 testament to that but there's some
00:38:57 really creative ideas which we're
00:38:59 actually going to start publishing
00:39:00 people's stories on the website of what
00:39:04 people are doing and and and how they're
00:39:06 choosing to help but I can't tell people
00:39:08 it's got to be your story it's got to be
00:39:11 how you personally can make a difference
00:39:15 and it can be anything and the smallest
00:39:20 thing the smallest gesture goes such a
00:39:22 long way it does it really really does
00:39:26 there's also a lot of comments about the
00:39:29 about the dichotomy mm-hmm that's a
00:39:32 great word by the way between between
00:39:35 chivalry and sexism okay and I think
00:39:38 this kind of goes back to what we talked
00:39:40 about earlier which is say yeah I'm with
00:39:44 a my penis like a man saying am i
00:39:46 feminist I don't know what that means
00:39:47 I'm treading on eggshells around the
00:39:48 whole thing so there was a lot of people
00:39:51 were sort of saying things like as a as
00:39:54 a woman would you be offended if a man
00:39:56 opened the door for you there's a lot of
00:39:59 people who think about things like that
00:40:00 and go well I mean they're worried maybe
00:40:02 about the smallest issues but what how
00:40:04 would you how would you feel um because
00:40:09 I'm a base what I do when we leave here
00:40:10 all right now okay
00:40:12 okay precious that you know um I love
00:40:15 having the door open for me I love I
00:40:17 mean isn't that just polite isn't that
00:40:20 just night it's not just a nice thing to
00:40:21 do for someone else I love having a door
00:40:23 open for me I love being taken to dinner
00:40:25 it's so great um but I think the key is
00:40:29 um would you then mind if I open the
00:40:33 door for you
00:40:34 absolutely not in the corridor no I'm
00:40:36 lazy oh then that works great yeah that
00:40:38 just I'm polite and you're polite yeah
00:40:41 absolutely
00:40:42 we're making the world a better place
00:40:43 with this small kind polite gesture
00:40:45 great and again you know I've um
00:40:50 I actually took a man out for dinner and
00:40:55 I chose the restaurant and I offered to
00:40:57 pay and it was really awkward and
00:40:58 uncomfortable I'm just gonna say that it
00:41:00 was he was not it was not going down
00:41:03 well he was not it was not because I'm
00:41:05 sure he would say he was a feminist but
00:41:07 he was just like oh this is a bit we
00:41:10 sure about making him feel a bit touchy
00:41:12 which I quit but the cool thing about it
00:41:15 was was that we were both willing to
00:41:17 have the conversation about why it was
00:41:19 awkward or why it was uncomfortable or
00:41:21 or you know like you know we were able
00:41:24 to have this dialogue where I was like
00:41:25 well it's okay
00:41:26 uh I'd we need I chose the restaurant
00:41:28 because it's my favorite restaurant and
00:41:30 I would love to pay but but next time
00:41:33 you choose the place and you pay or
00:41:35 whatever it is you're gonna split it or
00:41:37 whatever makes you each feel comfortable
00:41:40 but it's just I think the key is like
00:41:42 chivalry should be consensual it both
00:41:45 parties should be should be feeling good
00:41:47 about that and I think it's just a
00:41:51 problem when people expect things to be
00:41:52 a certain way to follow a certain status
00:41:54 it's appalling it's awkward and it's
00:41:56 messy and we're in transition right now
00:41:58 and everyone doesn't really feel any
00:41:59 know what to do but it's okay just just
00:42:02 be willing to have that awkward
00:42:04 conversation it does come out okay and
00:42:06 it does it really does
00:42:08 also Nando's is quite cheap so you're
00:42:09 probably fun yeah so I under I like
00:42:15 Mondays yeah so I think we've I think
00:42:18 we've covered that one yeah I think
00:42:20 we're good on that
00:42:20 yeah politeness is great I love parties
00:42:23 is politeness machinery to humans right
00:42:25 that's the thing yes oh that's the key
00:42:27 Oh deke we open the door for a man and I
00:42:29 would you know that's fine just being
00:42:31 polite
00:42:31 I've been brought up well by my mother
00:42:33 yeah say open the door for someone hold
00:42:34 the door from someone this is key and I
00:42:36 and I would do the same okay um a lot of
00:42:40 questions on the Facebook page in the
00:42:42 comments about LGBT community okay so
00:42:46 the BBC campaign in your in your
00:42:51 statement we there were people who
00:42:54 watched it and thought okay great but
00:42:56 what about my community what about
00:42:58 people around me in
00:43:00 in in my life so how will the he be she
00:43:03 campaign benefit the LGBT community okay
00:43:07 really good question
00:43:08 really important question so he ver she
00:43:12 is about men coming in to support women
00:43:15 and unfeminist
00:43:17 and feminine qualities because they are
00:43:20 currently valued less by our society
00:43:22 feminine qualities of generally valued
00:43:25 less and I think feminine femininity
00:43:29 needs to be embraced wherever its found
00:43:31 whether it be found in a man whether it
00:43:33 be found in a woman whether it be found
00:43:35 in a gender non-conforming person
00:43:37 wherever its found we we need to be
00:43:40 embracing it I'm also against racism and
00:43:45 homophobia and classism and ableism and
00:43:47 Jenna phobia and and all of it I mean my
00:43:50 specific mandate is to advocate for
00:43:53 women and girls
00:43:54 I'm a UN goodwill ambassador for women
00:43:57 so you know I'm here to do that but but
00:43:59 I also understand these oppressions are
00:44:02 interlocking mutually reinforcing and
00:44:07 that intersectionality is a really
00:44:08 important word here and we just need to
00:44:12 be supporting each other definitely 100%
00:44:16 and I hope the LGBT community does feel
00:44:19 included and does feel that this is
00:44:22 their movement because it is it
00:44:24 definitely is so I thank you and so I
00:44:31 could you general is watching this my
00:44:34 dream would be that I will be working
00:44:37 for the UN equality agency that that
00:44:40 gender equality would be such a thing of
00:44:44 the past that that wouldn't even need to
00:44:46 exist it would just be UN equality
00:44:50 agency . . you've done that's the dream
00:45:00 that is the dream there was a question
00:45:02 that was flashed up a minute ago that
00:45:03 she up here which was I don't know where
00:45:05 it's gone now it's it's gone but it
00:45:08 would there it is that's good how did
00:45:10 you know what I was thinking um it's
00:45:12 Facebook they know everywhere it was
00:45:14 gonna get great it was basically a
00:45:16 question which said if you didn't do
00:45:17 something now with this campaign with
00:45:19 HEPA she what do you think would be
00:45:20 happening in ten years time and what are
00:45:22 your fears about what your worst fears
00:45:25 about in the next 10 years if this
00:45:26 doesn't if we don't make a stand now I
00:45:29 think um some reason we we have this
00:45:34 view it's like women have the vote in
00:45:39 this country you know we we're doing
00:45:41 right it's it's this isn't there's a
00:45:44 lack of a sense of urgency around this
00:45:47 issue and also people not really
00:45:51 understanding what Hugh J this this
00:45:54 issue has all over the world I think
00:45:57 it's probably one of the biggest
00:45:59 contributors to poverty to violence to
00:46:05 discrimination it hindrance it hinders
00:46:08 development progress or all over the
00:46:12 world and you know just for example I
00:46:15 was I was reading The Guardian this
00:46:18 morning as reporters in the guard this
00:46:20 morning 85,000 women are raped in the UK
00:46:26 a year 85,000 us where we're at 16
00:46:33 percent gender pay gap Parliament 77%
00:46:38 male I mean just tell me there isn't a
00:46:42 problem here just tell me there isn't a
00:46:44 problem it just doesn't make sense to me
00:46:45 that we were so was so not there yet at
00:46:49 UK the UK ranked 56 in the world for
00:46:54 female political representation we
00:46:56 hopefully should move up to 36 in May
00:46:59 but still embarrassing I mean we're
00:47:02 meant to be one of the biggest most
00:47:05 progressive democracies in the world we
00:47:09 be at the forefront of this we we should
00:47:12 be we should be leading the way and with
00:47:15 with straggling behind we're not it's
00:47:21 just sort of stagnating for some reason
00:47:23 and yeah those figures again a
00:47:26 ridiculous oh boy
00:47:29 why has it got no news came out but do
00:47:31 you think it's got like that because
00:47:32 like you said oh when we got the vote
00:47:35 it's fine yeah so that was those are
00:47:37 quite a while ago yeah I think they
00:47:39 think that gender inequality is you know
00:47:41 I don't know what they think it's but
00:47:44 it's it's definitely a problem it's
00:47:46 definitely a problem now and this is why
00:47:48 there's something that came up some one
00:47:51 about um you know Oh first world
00:47:54 feminism that's Paul who cares about
00:47:56 that and I find this really confusing
00:47:59 because I'm like surely um
00:48:03 surely I've been incredibly privileged
00:48:06 and I haven't been held back because I'm
00:48:09 a girl but surely it's therefore my
00:48:11 responsibility to make sure that other
00:48:12 women have access to the same privileges
00:48:15 that I have
00:48:16 surely that's passed us surely it'd be
00:48:20 bad if I wasn't doing this like um you
00:48:24 know extending and making sure that that
00:48:28 what I've been lucky enough to receive
00:48:30 in my life is extended is extended out
00:48:33 is it extended outwards so yeah crazy
00:48:36 figures really upsetting figures I
00:48:38 wanted to address I think we kind of
00:48:41 covered this but I wanted you to address
00:48:43 it because it was talked about a lot on
00:48:44 your Facebook page
00:48:45 but the obviously though it generated a
00:48:48 lot of conversation when you did the UN
00:48:49 speech it's something crazy like 1.2
00:48:52 billion social media conversations I
00:48:54 mean that's that's great that's a great
00:48:56 star a lot of people were not a lot that
00:49:00 there was a lot of criticism from about
00:49:02 the role of women in the movement okay
00:49:04 so that was kind of I was is this a
00:49:06 man's club type thing is this men saving
00:49:10 women but I think it's very important
00:49:12 that that's not the message from this
00:49:14 campaign at all
00:49:15 no no it's not about men saving women
00:49:18 and it's um and I think it's a
00:49:21 misunderstanding I think that's a
00:49:23 misunderstanding I think women already
00:49:26 in the club we're already in the club
00:49:29 and because it's it's our movement it's
00:49:32 our movement it's not a men's club
00:49:35 it's an equality Club for both genders
00:49:38 it's an equality Club for both genders
00:49:40 it's about men coming in support of
00:49:43 women and women coming in support of men
00:49:47 it's it's it's both of those things and
00:49:49 um Gloria Steinem actually so called
00:49:54 Gloria Steinem Steinem gave a speech
00:49:56 last week at a he for she event in New
00:49:58 York surreal and amazing and she she
00:50:01 used this really beautiful kind of
00:50:02 amazing metaphor she said that the human
00:50:05 race is like a bird and it needs both of
00:50:08 its wings to be able to fly and the
00:50:11 moment one of its wings is clipped and
00:50:14 we're never ever ever going to be able
00:50:17 to fly as high unless unless you know
00:50:20 we're but we're both in support of each
00:50:22 other it's that's it I mean we created
00:50:27 he for she specifically at UN Women
00:50:28 because we wanted to create a space
00:50:30 where men felt that they were able to
00:50:32 express what gender and equality was
00:50:34 like for them because we knew that
00:50:36 historically you know there hadn't been
00:50:39 given that space they hadn't been given
00:50:40 that safe space but we wanted to be part
00:50:44 of the solution and the conversation and
00:50:46 we want them to be taking action with
00:50:49 with us and we want to do it together
00:50:52 yeah well I feel like that's a that's a
00:50:56 good moment to say get yourself onto the
00:50:58 website and pledge to relieve yes please
00:51:00 pledge your allegiance there's lots of
00:51:03 you saying you support it but go and
00:51:05 like it takes like two seconds I promise
00:51:07 I hate filling in online forms I got it
00:51:09 so boring and annoying you Lich's type
00:51:11 in your name and then you like take a
00:51:12 box and like it's ten that's like 10
00:51:15 seconds but it'll be really cool if if
00:51:18 we could have more people asking $50
00:51:20 that's just sorry it's not it's a yeah
00:51:23 it's it's a commitment
00:51:25 it's that's what it is you go on the
00:51:27 website and you make your commitment
00:51:28 pleased if you're a man and you believe
00:51:30 in equality and you're one of those cool
00:51:32 male feminists that I've been meeting
00:51:34 recently go go and put your name on our
00:51:37 website
00:51:39 I'm a feminist but I'm not particularly
00:51:40 cool but that's that's fine we like like
00:51:42 that's fine uncool man and welcome to
00:51:44 okay 18 good to know another another
00:51:48 controversial question actually is about
00:51:52 the about what what are you doing to
00:51:54 address the discrimination against men
00:51:57 or violence towards men from women well
00:52:00 first of all we're even acknowledging
00:52:03 that it exists because I think people
00:52:07 don't think this is a thing again it's
00:52:09 like we're not I don't think in the past
00:52:11 we've addressed how men are suffering as
00:52:16 a result of gender and equality this has
00:52:18 not been part of the conversation but it
00:52:20 is you know men are the recipients of
00:52:23 violence and abuse and discrimination
00:52:26 and I think just acknowledging it first
00:52:29 of all as it is is a big step and then
00:52:31 you know we're also trying to give them
00:52:33 a safe space where they feel like they
00:52:34 can talk about these issues whether
00:52:36 previously you know wasn't the fall and
00:52:38 we want to try and you know help and
00:52:41 support and support them um we you know
00:52:46 I think violence against anyone is
00:52:48 apparent and but just because we're
00:52:51 saying it's not right that women are the
00:52:53 recipients of violence we're definitely
00:52:54 not encouraging violence against men
00:52:58 that's definitely not you know how the
00:53:01 logic works um yeah it's equally equally
00:53:05 important one of the wonderful things in
00:53:07 that speech which I keep going back to
00:53:09 cuz it affected me quite a lot I really
00:53:11 you know I've really enjoyed it and I
00:53:12 really connected what you said but the
00:53:15 thing I think a lot of your fans and
00:53:16 people watching this can take away is
00:53:18 when you talked about if not me then who
00:53:20 and if not now then when
00:53:22 and that's again you also underlined the
00:53:24 urgency of this yeah because this is a
00:53:26 problem that is happening right now it's
00:53:29 not really getting much better than what
00:53:31 that's right I've it's really
00:53:32 interesting I like hairless a lot I've
00:53:34 hired my girlfriend's there and I've had
00:53:36 my friends say it - which is just you
00:53:38 know I saw this thing happened today and
00:53:40 my over so rubbish it was just so
00:53:42 embarrassing what they were saying and
00:53:44 so you know whatever else but I just
00:53:46 thought you know Who am I you know or
00:53:49 what good would it do if I said
00:53:50 something it's like the person that was
00:53:54 the recipient of that misogynistic
00:53:57 comment or you know or whatever it was
00:54:00 make a huge difference to them massive
00:54:04 difference to them I could change their
00:54:06 day their month their year maybe even
00:54:08 their life really good so don't don't
00:54:13 ever hear in your own head Who am I to
00:54:15 say something you are a human being you
00:54:19 are a person you can 100% change the
00:54:21 world and it's small ways it's everyday
00:54:25 ways it's it's the little things really
00:54:29 count and really matter and be brave be
00:54:32 brave be brave we have a little bit of
00:54:35 time for some questions from the
00:54:37 audience that's all right
00:54:39 so we do have anybody who would like to
00:54:41 ask a question yours with the speediest
00:54:44 hand I've ever seen that was straight up
00:54:48 the the guy in the Hogwarts jumper so
00:54:51 brace yourself okay I'm braced wait for
00:54:54 the microphone okay hi Emma hi there we
00:54:59 go we're on them yeah hi Anna I'm Thomas
00:55:04 every time I'm involved in a debate
00:55:06 about gender equality specifically equal
00:55:09 pay the most frequent argument are you
00:55:14 against it is that it shouldn't be
00:55:16 fearful women too will be paid the same
00:55:18 as men sorry because it's more likely
00:55:23 for women to be taking time off from
00:55:26 maternity leave obviously that's not
00:55:29 really fair at all not really
00:55:32 what would you have to say to people who
00:55:33 have that argument gosh uh yeah I've
00:55:38 come I've come up a cross I've come
00:55:40 across this argument a lot I guess I
00:55:45 would just say that maternity leave in
00:55:48 this country is around two months two or
00:55:52 three months and I don't think in the
00:55:54 grand scheme of things that's that's the
00:55:57 kind of amount of time that's that's
00:55:59 really going to hinder a woman from
00:56:01 being able to achieve and be incredibly
00:56:04 effective in whatever her particular
00:56:08 field is and I think men should be equal
00:56:13 partners in in raising children I do I
00:56:16 think there shouldn't be an assumption
00:56:19 that having children is something that
00:56:23 only affects women because men women
00:56:27 need men's support in those
00:56:30 circumstances just as much and I think
00:56:35 it's a really unfair assumption to make
00:56:37 that it's only women that are going to
00:56:40 be sidetracked by raising children it's
00:56:43 one of the most important things as a
00:56:45 human being you know that you can be
00:56:47 involved with is fostering and nurturing
00:56:50 a human being and men need to be playing
00:56:53 their part too I don't think it's enough
00:56:57 to to discriminate against a woman or
00:57:00 hold her back or or not to recognize the
00:57:04 potential that she has
00:57:10 thank you Tom great question jumper yeah
00:57:12 great great great question um okay we
00:57:16 have loads more yes
00:57:18 wavy lady hand there yes you have name
00:57:23 tags above every way do you should hi
00:57:27 girl is it working
00:57:29 we on yes baby yes hello hello I am
00:57:32 Sophie if you had the magic power what
00:57:35 would you change to a woman and what
00:57:37 would you convince male employees to
00:57:39 support your action how do I encourage
00:57:42 male police to support women in a place
00:57:45 force and how would you convince male
00:57:48 employees male employees yeah because I
00:57:50 am from a business part to support your
00:57:54 actions to support their sport your
00:57:57 actions how would you how would you
00:57:58 convince male employees to support your
00:58:00 actions in a workplace gosh I mean the
00:58:04 pay gap is such a big one it's like if
00:58:07 you know that a woman is doing exactly
00:58:09 the same work that you are and you know
00:58:11 that she's being paid less be so cool if
00:58:15 you said something about it I would be
00:58:17 amazing that would be so great and if
00:58:21 you're a you know if you're a business
00:58:23 leader or if you if you you know if you
00:58:25 have that power of your country of your
00:58:28 company then you know ask the question
00:58:31 are the women you're employing being
00:58:32 paid the same and make sure that you are
00:58:35 its yeah make sure that you are and um
00:58:41 yeah it's the best managers and yes is
00:58:44 watching this yeah they should be yeah
00:58:47 the things they do next week yeah please
00:58:49 just go through just look at just look
00:58:50 at it look at your figures honestly and
00:58:52 and just see our UK women the same as
00:58:56 men for the same work yes sir in the
00:58:59 purple you might have to wait some time
00:59:02 for this microphone to get parts back
00:59:04 here unless you brought your own
00:59:05 microphone in which case you can use
00:59:06 that
00:59:07 that would be I come prepared he's so
00:59:09 cool III get the opportunity finally hi
00:59:13 Emma
00:59:14 my name is Hersh I wanted to ask you
00:59:17 well firstly I'm a big fan of Hermione
00:59:18 Granger but a bigger fan Emma Watson who
00:59:22 is the face for he for she I think my
00:59:24 question essentially is that if you were
00:59:25 a man would you be equally passionate
00:59:27 about gender equality if I was a man
00:59:30 yes you know it's interesting the other
00:59:34 thing quite hard about this if I was a
00:59:35 man um my I'd say my brother actually
00:59:41 weirdly is more of a feminist than I am
00:59:43 he's he's pretty passionate and we look
00:59:47 a bit like twins so that's it so I can
00:59:49 kind of get myself and I had said no uh
00:59:51 yeah I would I definitely would um
00:59:55 because it's right not because I have a
00:59:59 mother or a sister or you know whatever
01:00:02 just just because just because it's
01:00:06 right are you passionate because you're
01:00:08 a man
01:00:09 good excellent good to see yes Manti in
01:00:15 the front row lovely night yeah I'm
01:00:18 really big fan of your work and my
01:00:20 question is regarding something that I'm
01:00:21 currently studying and it's regarding
01:00:24 gender in the workplace and it's what
01:00:27 would you say are the real causes of
01:00:28 gender inequality in the workplace and
01:00:30 how do you think he for she can help
01:00:32 overcome this problem and in recording
01:00:36 the workplace yeah
01:00:37 Liz Lange talks a lot about it we have
01:00:39 um you know even even though in in
01:00:46 Britain for example we've passed laws
01:00:49 and we've passed legislation there's
01:00:52 still a big gap in in people's minds and
01:00:55 people's mindsets you know traditional
01:00:58 traditions and social change it just
01:01:03 just takes time changing the way that
01:01:06 people think it's this is a slow process
01:01:10 so it's really asking someone the right
01:01:14 question that makes them go ah yeah I
01:01:18 guess that does make sense or I guess
01:01:19 this thing that's happening doesn't
01:01:21 really make sense but I've just accepted
01:01:23 it because that's how things have always
01:01:25 been so I guess it's just questioning
01:01:31 it's being willing to question things
01:01:33 and make up your own mind thank you very
01:01:38 much unfortunately we have run out of
01:01:40 time for audience question we could be
01:01:42 here for our sister but thank you so
01:01:44 much
01:01:45 one final thing from me do you think
01:01:47 that it's possible in our lifetimes to
01:01:49 achieve what you're trying to set out to
01:01:51 achieve gender equality uh at current
01:01:56 rates no I will probably be dead but I
01:02:01 think I'm just gonna refuse to die I
01:02:05 think I'm just gonna be like no I I'm
01:02:09 not gonna do are you're not gonna get
01:02:11 rid of me until I get to see an equal
01:02:16 number of female prime ministers and
01:02:18 presidents and CEOs and more men that
01:02:22 actually feel like it's okay to express
01:02:24 how they really feel about things and
01:02:25 more fathers that are present in their
01:02:29 children's lives and you know and until
01:02:34 I see us all not policing and
01:02:38 ostracizing each other and oppressing
01:02:40 each other and when I live in a world
01:02:42 where there just isn't such a narrowly
01:02:43 defined definition of masculinity and
01:02:46 femininity just not gonna go it just
01:02:50 won't just refuse if someone could
01:02:54 scientifically come up with a way for
01:02:56 that to happen
01:02:57 please please let me know Emily Rose in
01:03:01 crime I'd like to be yeah so that I can
01:03:03 come back and be alive to to witness a
01:03:06 world where as gender equality that
01:03:08 would be called well thank you so much
01:03:10 for your time today
01:03:11 ladies and gentlemen Emma Watson
01:03:28 I love the car
01:03:34 name of your questions thank you very
01:03:37 much aware you are wonderful ordinance
01:03:39 yeah you really were thank you so much
01:03:41 for everyone that came and sent in and
01:03:43 just interacted and engaged with this
01:03:45 it's it's been amazing thank you
01:03:48 and thank you for watching as well if
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ma's
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